Ted Rall's new column at Common Dreams -
NYC to GOP: Drop Dead.
Ah, Ted. Even his titles are controversial.
Before I take this on from the beginning, I need to wade into the middle of this dirt to clear something up right off the bat.
bq. Anti-Republican sentiment is rising to a fever pitch here as the dog days tick down to the dreaded affair. A poll cited by the local ABC affiliate shows 83 percent of New Yorkers don't want their city to host the RNC. And many of them are planning to do something about it.
I had to go searching for this poll because Ted doesn't link to it. There's a reason Ted doesn't link to it. His entire paragraph is dishonest. By throwing the words anti-Republican and fever pitch in there, Rall wants you to believe that 83% of New Yorkers are foaming at the mouth because the damn dirty Republicans are coming. Except, for most, politics doesn't even play into it.
From the
NY ABC affiliate, where the poll originally appeared:
bq. A recent survey by a Manhattan public relations firm found 83 percent of those polled do not want the Republican convention in town. When asked why, more than half, 53 percent, were worried about traffic, street closures, and security hassles.
That's right. 53% of 83% of the people polled were worried about being inconvenienced. You do the math. It doesn't quite add up to the anti-Republican fever that Rall thinks the entire city has come down with. It's not about Bush or Cheney or the war in Iraq. It's about
parking.
Let's go back to the beginning now.
bq. The Republican delegates here to coronate George W. Bush are unwelcome members of a hostile invading army. Like the hapless saps whose blood they sent to be spilled into Middle Eastern sands, they will be given intentionally incorrect directions to nonexistent places. Objects will be thrown in their direction. Children will call them obscene names. They will not be greeted as liberators.
From this we infer that Ted believes are soldiers are hapless saps. But
we knew that already. What Ted does in the above paragraph is standard Ted Rall Operating Procedure. I've called Ted a four-trick pony before and he manages to squeeze
all of his tricks into that one sentence.
So Rall is admitting that some sort of violence (objects thrown at people) will be taking place. And he admits that the Do it For the Children® crowd will be
using their children to serve their own purposes (trying to find the link for that particular protest action). As for the liberators thing, well, that's just Ted trying to work in a clever turn of phrase. I think he's used that "not greeted as liberators" thing so often it just automatically spills out of his pen now.
Moving on.
bq. ...White House strategist Karl Rove sees the continued exploitation of 9/11 for partisan political gain as Bush's key to victory in November. That means bringing the big bash three miles north of the hole where the Twin Towers used to stand, where most of the victims of 9/11 were burned, suffocated, impaled and pulverized.
New York has tried to get the convention to grace its streets before, to no avail. When the RNC chose New York City, it was a time when city officials were begging for people to help New York's shattered economy. They saw hosting the convention as a way to bring much needed monetary relief to the city, and the RNC rightfully saw holding their gala in New York as a way of saying "New York is alive and well and safe."
It's interesting that so many liberals claim the GOP is running a race based on fear and that the White House constantly bombards us with fear-mongering announcements designed to make us cower under our beds. Yet the GOP steps up and comes to New York City, bringing the president and his crew to one of the most targeted places on the terrorist map. With that, I see an administration telling us they are not afraid. Somehow, to these liberal-soaked minds, giving back to the city that lost so much is a form of exploitation. Go figure.
bq. Making hay of the dead is also the point of this confab's timing. The 2004 Necropublican National Convention is being held a full month later than normal, from August 30 to September 2. The original plan was to have Bush shuttle between Madison Square Garden and Ground Zero for photo ops to coincide with the third anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Bush's visits to the Trade Center site were quietly canceled a few months back after 9/11 survivors expressed revulsion at the idea. But it was too late to change the date.
Heh, Necropublican. Ted made a funny.
Well, if the White House did have those plans and deferred to the wishes of the 9/11 survivors, you would think Ted and friends would say "thank you for understanding, Mr. President" and move on. But no, Rall prefers to rant about his disgust for something that's not even going to take place. Also,
this isn't the first time they are holding their convention in late August.
And you know,
making hay of the dead is a strange phrase for Ted to use. Considering all the "hay" Ted has made of
Pat Tillman.
bq. Rejecting ex-mayor Ed Koch's call to "make nice" with the party that used the deaths of 2,801 New Yorkers--most of them Democrats--for everything from tax cuts for the rich to building concentration camps at Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib to invading Iraq to enrich Dick Cheney and his fellow Haliburton execs, some groups are encouraging liberal-minded New Yorkers to volunteer for the city's squad of official greeters.
Firs of all, not all of the 2,801 people who died in the World Trade Center were New Yorkers. Second, has there every been a study done to determine the political affiliation of each and every victim of 9/11? How does Ted know that most of them were Democrats? Or is that based on his fallacy that every one of the 2,081 dead were New Yorkers?
And yea, Abu Ghraib. Can't get through one of these arguments with mentioning that "concentration camp."
bq. Creatively altered maps of streets and subways will be handed out to button-clad stupid white men. Other saboteurs wearing fake RNC T-shirts will direct them to parts of town where Bush's policies have hit hardest. Rumor has it that prostitutes suffering from sexually transmitted diseases will discourage the use of condoms with Republican customers.
So, the 53% of the 83% of New Yorkers who don't want the convention here are worried about disruptions and what do the protesters aim to do? Cause further
chaos and disruptions. As for the part about the hookers, isn't purposefully giving someone a disease considered a criminal act?
bq. Adding to the already combustible Chicago '68 vibe is a possible wildcat strike by city cops and firefighters. And now, as if everyone concerned wasn't already tweaky, FBI agents are traveling around the United States, to harass members of leftist groups planning to protest the New York RNC.
What Ted fails to mention, and I'm sure he does this for a reason, is that the cops and firefighters are not protesting the Republicans. They are protesting Mayor Bloomberg's misguided reluctance to give them a worthy pay raise. I've talked to several NYC firemen in the past few days, all of them Republican and all of them voting for Bush. They all say their potential protest is one to give publicity to the fact that their mayor won't pay them what they are worth. Basically, they are exploiting the publicity given to the convention to air their concerns. And if the FBI is honing in on protesters, it's because of people like Rall who are shouting to the world that the protest tactics will include actions like
throwing things at Republicans.
bq. Strikebreaking policemen and private security personnel may be able to keep the protesters away from the convention hall. But Republicans who venture outside the Garden deserve the abuse ordinary New Yorkers will likely inflict upon them.
A couple of things here: protesters are coming from all over the country. It's safe to say that a good portion of
those standing outside the garden won't be "ordinary" New Yorkers. And can you imagine if some right-wing group said that Democrats "deserve" abuse inflicted upon them? The Hitler references would pile up like a Broadway traffic jam. Also, how will the protesters be able to tell the Republicans from the reporters? Is everyone who walks out of MSG fair game for object throwing?
bq. Even viler than Bush's urban neglect is his failure to avenge the World Trade Center victims as he pledged to do on 9/14, dusty firefighter helpfully posing under his arm on The Pile. After 9/11, Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden were in Pakistan....blahblahblahblahThe War in Afghanistan was a lie blahblahblah.
Here, Ted is still harping on his
raison d'etre, that the war in Afghanistan was unjust. Ted doesn't believe that the Taliban was ever in that country.
It's all about the oiiiiiiiiilll. See, Ted went to Afghanistan and he spoke to a few people who told him it was about the oil. His entire rant against the Bush administration is based on what a few Afghanistan locals told him.
Rall believes the war on terrorism is a loss. Rall suffers from an infliction that plagues most lefties: willful blindness. They don't see all the terror-related arrests. They don't see all the thwarted attacks. They don't see that New York, DC, Chicago and all our other major cities are still standing. They don't see that, almost three years later, we have not suffered another terrorists attack on our nation. But, bin Laden hasn't been brought forth in cuffs, so the war on terror is a wash. Never mind that OBL is probably nothing more than bones and dust at this point.
Just as here Rall doesn't see that the convention being held in New York is sort of an
in your face to terrorists.
NYC to GOP: Drop Dead. That's a nice sentiment from Ted. Do you think he means that? Do you think that Ted is speaking for all New Yorkers or is he once again engaging in a bit of projection, assuming that because
he wants the GOP to drop dead, everyone does? We
are talking about a guy who believes that nearly everyone who died in the World Trade Center was a New York Democrat. Ted's bout with delusions is getting the best of him, I suppose.
Gotta love the closing line:
bq. Republicans are neofascists now, and that's why New Yorkers good and true will be yelling at them to go back home.
I knew it! I knew he couldn't get through a whole article without saying the F word. Everyone take a drink! Anyhow, the only reason most New Yorkers will be yelling at the GOP to go back home is because New Yorkers do not like to be inconvenienced. It's unlikely that the guy stuck in a mile long traffic jam by the Garden is going to be shouting out slogans about Abu Ghraib. No, it's more likely he'll be cursing the cabs and buses blocking his way. But, wait for it. Rall and his protesting buddies will claim that the driver's underlying anger is a manifestation of his angst over the war in Iraq and that the yellow cab represents the cowardice of our president. So when he's yelling at the cab, that traffic-blocked driver is really protesting the Republicans.
53% of 83% of New Yorkers polled, Ted. Figure it out. Then write another column based on facts.
[previous Ted Rall bitchslaps
here]
Comments
Making hay of the dead is also the point of this confab's timing. The 2004 Necropublican National Convention is being held a full month later than normal, from August 30 to September 2.
This is one of my favorite idiot-lefty talking points. It was perhaps excusable some months ago. By now, however, Rall might have noticed that Republicans can't be expected to hold the convention in the middle of the Olympics. The Convention starts ASAP after the Olympics are over.
Posted by: Crank | August 19, 2004 08:03 AM
bitchslap indeed. I think the baby powder is still hanging in the air.
Posted by: shank | August 19, 2004 08:07 AM
Excellent fisking, Michele. Rall is a twisted little piece of excrement, but at least he's good for a chuckle.
"Necropublican?" Oh, sure, we can laugh now, but when Bush's army of walking corpses takes over, we won't be laughing. Braaaaiiiiinnnnnnssss!!!
Posted by: Big Brother | August 19, 2004 08:24 AM
"As for the part about the hookers, isn't purposefully giving someone a disease considered a criminal act?"
But Michele, it's ok to kill Republicans...didn't you get the memo?
Speaking of which, whatever happened to the argument that the 3000 dead in the towers deserved it for being capitalist money chasing (read: Republican) pigs? So now they are all Democrats and deserved it? Wait, Now they didn't deserve it? Did they deserve it before they didn't deserve it?
Maybe the left is correct and Republicans are stupid because I sure can't figure them out.
Posted by: a different Bill | August 19, 2004 08:39 AM
Are you sure it's a whole four tricks? I thought it was just one: Squatting over the page.
Hey, you didn't even mock his "Republicans are anti-feminist" thing. Feminist, like finding 7 women who'll actually let you use them as ambulatory jizz-ditches, and then multiplying that number by 10 when you brag about it in a women's magazine? That kind of feminist, Ted?
Posted by: Jim Treacher | August 19, 2004 08:40 AM
"Strikebreaking policemen?"
Oh I get it, most of the protestors will be coal miners demanding medical care for their black lung disease and demanding to finally get a 40 hour work week from their corporate zombie masters.
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Posted by: Progressives4Kerry | August 19, 2004 08:50 AM
If that's progressive, I'll gladly remain a neanderthal, thank you.
Posted by: Analog Mouse | August 19, 2004 08:58 AM
Hey, Ted Rall posted a comment!
Posted by: Big Brother | August 19, 2004 09:01 AM
I've read a lot of quotes and heard on NPR people coming from the left who seem to be wistful for the '68 Chicago protests mainly because it recalls a big victory years later in turing the country against Vietnam. What they seem to forget is who won the '68 election and how the behaviour seen at the '68 Chicago convention riled the so-called "silent majority"...
Posted by: Jim H | August 19, 2004 09:04 AM
I love how this idiot, born in Mass. and raised in Ohio, feels empowered to speak for all NYC residents.
Teddy? I was born in the Bronx and raised there and here on Staten Island. My wife works in midtown, and she's working from home while the convention is under way because she doesn't want to deal with the gridlock and potential mayhem your cohorts are calling for.
I however, am going up every day, and God help the first moonbat who doesn't tawk Noo Yawk and hands me a bogus map or gives me false directions to anywhere. A local I'll just curse out and maybe spit on; foreigners eat the pavement.
Posted by: TC-LeatherPenguin | August 19, 2004 09:08 AM
Progressives4Kerry,
Thank you for you views but I believe Michele likes Trolls that can spell or cut and past correctly.
vFU** ******* BUSH AND GOP, WE WILL DESTRTOY YOU IF YOU SHOW!
Michele, thank you once again for making my day.
Marc B
Posted by: Marc B | August 19, 2004 09:08 AM
According to David Horowitz in his autobiography, the violence at '68 Chicago protests was instigated by the protest organizers from the New Left.
They deliberately attacked the police as to provoke the police to beat the shit out of kids and disrupt the convention (hard to believe, the Left using violence and terror to disrupt a peaceful, democratic political process...!)
Want to take bets they are going to make the same play in NYC 2004?
Posted by: Sundog | August 19, 2004 09:10 AM
Yes, but remember to speak the exact words before handling the Necrorepublicanomicon.
Posted by: Patrick Chester | August 19, 2004 09:19 AM
In a surprise announcement, the GOP will be handing the candidacy to Riddick. Kerry could not be found for comment. Ever.
I want a Necropublican t-shirt!
Posted by: John Irving | August 19, 2004 09:25 AM
I've been thinking about this for some time, but now I'm certain. Today, I intend to contact my local Republican Party headquarters and see if they need any more volunteers for their 96 hour Get Out the Vote effort. It's worth burning a couple vacation days to see that Democrats don't win this election.
Besides the obvious reasons why Bush is a better man for the job, I'd get the pleasure of watching the moonbats' heads explode. As the line from "Robocop" went, "I'll buy that for a dollar."
Posted by: Larry J | August 19, 2004 09:29 AM
I'm betting that this virulent hatred is going to backfire on the Lefties when it's plastered all over the news during the Convention. Big time.
Posted by: mark-o | August 19, 2004 09:38 AM
Assuming it is plastered all over the news, mark-o. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear much at all about these lunatics except through the blogosphere.
Posted by: Big Brother | August 19, 2004 09:42 AM
Necropublican 2004: "The dead have risen, and they're voting Republican!" -- Bart Simpson
Posted by: Random Passer By | August 19, 2004 09:46 AM
You are assuming that hatred isn't politically viable. That is a false assumption.
Hate sells and sells well, especially in today's world with its cult of feelings ("If people really hate Bush, it must be true, because feelings don't lie...")
My point is to not be naive. There is a strong chance that hatred of Bush will put Kerry into office. A despicable reason, but still a good possiblity.
Posted by: Sundog | August 19, 2004 09:48 AM
If I remember correctly, didn't Bloomberg want both parties to hold their convention in NYC? The democrats said they would come only if Bloomberg refused to allow the GOP to hold their convention there as well. The Republicans,however, were perfectly content to share the city.
But, somehow, it's the Necropublicans that aren't playing nice? Right, gotcha! :-/
Posted by: Masked Menace | August 19, 2004 09:48 AM
Michele, kickass post.
Posted by: Hubris | August 19, 2004 09:59 AM
Masked Menace: Bingo! MacAuliffe wanted the Garden, but wanted the city to rescind it's offer to the RNC. Nurse Bloomie told him to stuff it. So Teddy K. brought the party to his backyard, where the moonbats were caged. But the Repubs are the neofascists thronging to a city that's offering protesters discount perks if they promise to play nice.
Posted by: TC-LeatherPenguin | August 19, 2004 10:00 AM
Michele, you have made my day. Such tasty fisking belongs in a snooty French restaraunt, next to the caviar and lefty-sprouts. YOU KICK ASS!
Posted by: SparseMatrix | August 19, 2004 10:06 AM
Um, so how exactly will Ted and his army know at whom to throw "objects?" Party profiling? Some combination of skin color and haircut? What if that "button-clad stupid white man" is actually a "saboteur wearing a fake RNC shirt?" That could get confusing.
Is lynching OK for black GOP delegates? Are children of Republicans fair game, or do you have to be a registered voter to deserve objects thrown at you? Can GOP kids fight other kids who call them obscene names? Do Ted et al have a "you must be this tall to throw Molotov cocktails" policy?
If I ran the zoo, I'd have these "protesters" on the MSG Jumbotron full-time behind every speaker.
Posted by: shatterglass | August 19, 2004 10:11 AM
Mich, you're always at your best when you're bitchslapping that asshole.
For the record, this New Yorker isn't thrilled about the mayhem the convention will bring, but is very glad it will be here. I might even get to see some of it first hand.
Hey, Pengie, I'll join your anti-moonbat squad!
Posted by: Faith | August 19, 2004 10:16 AM
Will Rall's head explode when Bush wins?
Posted by: Ray | August 19, 2004 10:16 AM
Ray:
Yes, his head would explode. however, instead of flying grey matter, we'd probably just feel a warm breeze.
Posted by: shank | August 19, 2004 10:19 AM
RE: the WTC photo op. Wouldn't the convention have to be going on Sept 11 for it to coincide with the anniversary or am I missing something here? Is the Pres forbidden to go visit the site ever again or just in the month of Sept?
Posted by: Pat | August 19, 2004 10:40 AM
"...invading Iraq to enrich Dick Cheney and his fellow Haliburton execs..."
Uh, Ted, Cheney had to divest himself of his Haliburton holdings when he became the VP candidate.
Great job Michele. I for one am taking great glee from the simple fact that the Rall article points up what a miserable, dour, and unhappy fellow he truly is.
Posted by: steve | August 19, 2004 10:46 AM
shank,
A warm, smelly breeze.
Posted by: Ray | August 19, 2004 10:52 AM
Don't get me started on WABC. Any station that produces an abomination like Henry needs to be razed to the ground.
Posted by: Laurence Simon | August 19, 2004 10:56 AM
Posted by: Marc | August 19, 2004 11:03 AM
Necropublican voting for the right since 1776.
Posted by: VerukaSalt | August 19, 2004 11:24 AM
Necropublican voting for the right since 1776.
Posted by: VerukaSalt | August 19, 2004 11:25 AM
R*all is just a tired old monkey slinging poop for attention. Besides, no one west of New England even knows who he is, with the exception of localized echo-chambers in SF and Berkeley.
Posted by: Bud Tugley | August 19, 2004 11:33 AM
Yes, Bud. But it doesn't make what he says any less offensive.
Posted by: michele | August 19, 2004 11:45 AM
Don't get me wrong Michele, I despise his kind of freak with every fiber of my being. But treating his diatribes with even the least amount of analysis contributes to his gravitas within the moonbat community. His screeds are'nt even worth analyzing. It's all just flying poop.
Posted by: Bud Tugley | August 19, 2004 11:53 AM
As both a New Yorker and a democrat, I can tell you that much of the sentiment is motivated by the inconvenience of the RNC and not politics. True, Bush will lose NYC by a wide margin, but the sentiment is based on having so many streets closed down, hundreds of thousands of protesters, thousands of delegates, making our city an even greater target than it already is, etc.
While Bush will probably get no more than 30% of the vote here, it's really the inconvenience factor motivating people to oppose the RNC.
Posted by: twoghosts | August 19, 2004 12:17 PM
RE: GOP Convention not wanted in NYC.
I work at a university in Boston and have to commute through the heart of the city to get to work. I'd say the vast majority of my co-workers are democrats and I don't think a single one of them wanted the DNC convention in Boston this year. Besides everyone taking vacation time and disrupting business they were afraid that traffic and parking would be unbearable.
Just goes to show you: there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Posted by: Kirk | August 19, 2004 12:33 PM
Michele - this is going to leave a bruise.
Kirk: Lies, damn lies and the reality of parking in any living downtown let alone during a major event.
Posted by: Mikey | August 19, 2004 12:41 PM
Necropublican 2004: "The dead have risen, and they're voting Republican!" -- Bart Simpson
Bart got it wrong. If Chicago 1960 is any indication, the dead generally vote Democrat.
Posted by: Curt | August 19, 2004 12:50 PM
Question: If a zombie ate Rall's brain, would he notice the difference?
Posted by: Faith | August 19, 2004 01:32 PM
Faith: No, Rall wouldn't notice any difference. And the poor Necropublican zombie would still be hungry.
Posted by: Bryan C | August 19, 2004 01:39 PM
The dead that vote Democrat don't bother to rise first.
It's too bad that Rall himself certainly doesn't have the balls to pull the stunts he's describing himself--I have a terribly pleasant image of the little weasel handing one of those phony maps to a Republican who just happened to be a Teamster with arms the size of Buicks, and who just happened to recognize him. I wonder if the cops who showed up could stop laughing long enough to call someone to hose the grease spot off the sidewalk.
Posted by: M. Scott Eiland | August 19, 2004 01:40 PM
BTW, has anyone noticed that Teddy is looking for a media pass to the RNC??
Also, Teddy is selling a t-shirt (that capitalist swine). Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the skull and crossbones a symbol for death, rather than "hate?" Maybe the Secret Service has an opinion.
Posted by: Jheka | August 19, 2004 01:51 PM
Answer: He'd be hungrier than when he started because you can't eat a hallucination.
Posted by: spacemonkey | August 19, 2004 01:52 PM
Brraaaaaiiiinnnnssss....
BRAAAAIIIIINNNNSSS...
walks over to Ted Rall
sniffs
Awwwww....
shuffles away
Granted, it's much funnier when you do it in person.
Posted by: Necropublican | August 19, 2004 02:00 PM
I thought believers in Leftist ideology were the real lovers of the dead.
Posted by: Crank | August 19, 2004 02:41 PM
i question the timing!
oh, and i'm leaving the city for that entire week. i hope people clean up after themselves, but i am not really expecting it.
Posted by: meep | August 19, 2004 02:50 PM
you deliver like a pro, saving the best for last: "Rall and his protesting buddies will claim that the driver's underlying anger is a manifestation of his angst over the war in Iraq and that the yellow cab represents the cowardice of our president."
Posted by: tee bee | August 19, 2004 03:18 PM
Jheka-
Leave it to Ted to try to explain to the Secret Service that it's also a symbol for pirates on the high seas.
Posted by: Laurence Simon | August 19, 2004 03:41 PM
Ted's real message: "Please, please, please do all of these things so I have something new to flog it to."
Posted by: dzd | August 19, 2004 03:47 PM
Michele
Excellent! Again, I admire your bravery. I just can't stand more than a glancing at excrementRall.
I almost want to giggle while watching the schizoid behavior of the spittlespewers like Rall who thought the USA deserved 9/11 and then embrace the event as if they owned it and only they can lay down the rules of how it will be remember and spoken about. I think the discordant mindset of how to deal with 9/11 is part of the problem with contemporary Democrats and their now-fully-Left party. Take a gander at page 7 of this Pew research pollThis is why Teddyboy, like Michael al-Moor, railed against the Afghan war... 9/11 is our fault.
Posted by: Darleen | August 19, 2004 03:49 PM
Excellent! Again, I admire your bravery.
Yes, Michele. Good work, taking shots at a raving idiot in front of an audience that heaps praise on you at every opportunity!
So brave!
Posted by: The Left | August 19, 2004 03:58 PM
MEDIA IGNORES RACISM TOWARDS ARABS
After a recent alleged anti-semitic incident occurred, where Jewish students were supposedly verbally ribbed while visiting Auschwitz, it received non-stop coverage by the media and the Reich Whinge blahgosphere. Incidents of anti-semitism always receive ad-nauseum attention even though the number of cases is tiny and they always tend to be frivolous, and not be of a serious nature. By comparison, incidents of hatred and bigotry towards the Arab population receive no coverage at all, even when they are of the utmost more serious nature.
Of these two incidents, only Newsday reported on the assault against the Muslim taxi driver while the other incident was completely ignored by the media. This is typical of every case of hatred toward Arabs or Islam. They don't receive any media attention, even though they outnumber the few trivial anti-semitic incidents, and this leaves the public ignorant of the rising tide of Islamophia that is sweeping across the globe. A rising tide, I might add, that is fueled and lusted by you Reich Whinge Rubes.
Posted by: Robert McClelland | August 19, 2004 04:10 PM
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Posted by: Progressive & Proud | August 19, 2004 04:17 PM
Robert: By branding all conservatives as "Reich Whinge Rubes" and Islamaphobes aren't you as guilty of stereotyping as you claim we are?
Progressive & Proud: Your not actually saying you want to suppress opposing opinions are you?
Posted by: Masked Menace | August 19, 2004 04:42 PM
The Left,
Leaving a fake e-mail address is, on the other hand, an extraordinary act of courage.
McClelland,
And what does that have to do with Rall or Michele's response? Oh, I forgot: Your sole mission in life is to be a thread-hijacking jackass. And I like a lot of people on the left; the fact that you are a jackass is completely divorced from your politics.
Progressive & Proud,
Why is "blogs" in quotes? Could you make sure a sentence makes sense before you repeat it 50 times?
Sorry Michele, please feel free to delete my troll-feeding comment when you delete the troll comments themselves.
Posted by: Hubris | August 19, 2004 04:48 PM
Wow, that was so progressive.
Ready for second grade now?
And Robert, is this your assigned week for troll patrol?
Posted by: Ray | August 19, 2004 05:06 PM
I'll just leave the comments up here because they prove the idiocy of these people.
Notice how Mr. Left never addresses the issue at hand.
Posted by: michele | August 19, 2004 05:10 PM
Rallfan1: "Dude, let's go do some crimes."
Rallfan2: "Yeah. Let's go get sushi and not pay!"
Posted by: shatterglass | August 19, 2004 06:16 PM
From this we infer that Ted believes are soldiers are hapless saps.
Ted is, of course, completely wrong. Many of America's soldiers are very intelligent people who can learn from their mistakes...
Posted by: Phlebas | August 19, 2004 06:19 PM
I LIK YOU!
(sorry, cracking myself up over bad troll spelling)
Posted by: Faith | August 19, 2004 06:31 PM
Necrorepublicanomicon.
heh. that's funny
I awoke again, cold sweat pouring from my head, to the sound, that awful sound...
..of the pollsters in the walls!
Posted by: Dave in Texas | August 19, 2004 08:56 PM
I do agree with you, Phlebas, many of them can.
Posted by: Darleen | August 19, 2004 09:01 PM
McClelland
I will say only this to you.
CAIR is affiliated with Hamas.
If you ever try to promote them again as any kind of "credible" group, I'll know exactly where you are coming from; even more so then your pathetic attempts of ZOG-baiting.
GAZE
Posted by: Darleen | August 19, 2004 09:06 PM
I do agree with you, Phlebas, many of them can.
Indeed. What liberals don't seem to understand is that, with a Republican in power, we don't have to play by their rules anymore.
Four! More! Years!
Posted by: Phlebas | August 19, 2004 09:20 PM
That's a cut-n-paste of McClelland's spew over at...Damian Penny's site (I think) earlier in the week.
Which makes it only marginally less interesting than what he usually posts.
Posted by: Ryan W | August 19, 2004 09:45 PM
Yo P&P,
LIK THIS ONE!
Posted by: DrSteve (former Brooklynite) | August 19, 2004 09:49 PM
Michelle, nicely done.
Count me as at least one left-leaning democrat who believes Rall to be one of the nation's colossal assholes. The combination of dogma and ignorance is almost laughable.
Did you notice his reference to how Republicans have been scared to come to progressive NY for a convention for 150 years? Of course, this neglects the fact that perhaps they avoided having a convention in 1864 because they were afraid that the pro-slavery Democrats (who do we think was respsonsible for the draft riots and lynchings Ted?) who dominated the city didn't want them.
Reminds me of the story from a year or so back about pamphlets being distributed in schools during Black History month asserting that blacks could vote after the civil war until Republicans took over and deprived them of the vote.
Sigh,
Posted by: stolypin | August 19, 2004 10:36 PM
Oh, geez, Bobby's found this site?
He's like "Dear Leader" banging on his high chair for attention.
Glad he's a Canuck.
Posted by: Sandy P | August 20, 2004 12:39 AM
Excellent job of de-fusing Rall's ticking manure-bomb.
The thing I found most disturbing in visiting the commondreams site was an endorsement attributed to Bill Moyers. Oh, well, it surely wasn't any surprise.
The Mad Fiddler
apsnyblog.blogspot.com
Posted by: David March | August 20, 2004 01:22 AM
Hey "The Left"
Somebody has to. Your side certainly isn't.
As for Robert,
Wassamatter, Bob? Did you take a couple weeks off from your usual "hey look at me" posts?
Posted by: Big Brother | August 20, 2004 02:58 AM
I'm going to clean up the few scraps that ya'll were nice enough to leave me:
Anti-Republican sentiment is rising to a fever pitch here as the dog days tick down to the dreaded affair.
Ted, you fucking moron, Dog days ended last week. Get a fucking clue. Or at least, figure out that tricky Google user interface.
There.
Posted by: Slartibartfast | August 20, 2004 12:37 PM
The 2004 Necropublican National Convention is being held a full month later than normal, from August 30 to September 2.
Wasn't part of the reason for the Republicans scheduling their convention when they did to take advantage of campaign finance laws? In fact, weren't the Dems at one point talking about not nominating Kerry at the convention so that they would be able to use their own funds rather than have to use federal funds, which they have to do once they nominate someone?
I'm not sure if this is McCain-Feingold related, but if so it would make sense that this is the first time the convention has been so late, since it's the first post-MF convention.
But it can't be as simple as that, it must be some 9/11 related conspiracy.
Posted by: Mad Anthony | August 20, 2004 01:49 PM
Leaving a fake e-mail address is, on the other hand, an extraordinary act of courage.
Yeah, yeah. And leaving you a real honest to goodness hotmail address that wouldn't be worth checking because you'd never send anything there would be super-brave.
Whatever.
Notice how Mr. Left never addresses the issue at hand.
What "issue"? That Ted Rall's an idiot? Why would I bother? It's self-evident.
It's kind of like if you were standing around pointing at the sky and going, "That sky is so blue. That sky is blue! It's super blue! It's so blue, blue things look at it and go, 'Wow, that sky's really really blue.'"
And then all your supporters clap throw coins into your paypal account so you can buy heating oil or whatever.
There's no "issue" there. It's just sad.
Posted by: The Left | August 20, 2004 07:55 PM
Poor Mister Left. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
Posted by: Andrea Harris | August 20, 2004 09:27 PM
Yeah, nobody loves me everybody hates me I'm gonna eat some worms.
Jesus, do you people ever get tired of being completely self-satisfied?
[Answer: Why no, Mr. Left, we never do. If any of us were so inclined, the constant affirmation from our fellow dittoheads would immediately assure us that all was well in the world, and that we're exactly as much smarter than everybody else as we've always imagined ourselves to be. But thanks for asking! We will now make ironic comments about trolls and how unimportant the opinions of people who criticize us are.]
No wonder 90% of the people who comment here agree with each other. Every one else gets bored and leaves.
[Yeah, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.]
Etc., etc...
Posted by: The Left | August 20, 2004 10:04 PM
Let's parse Rall's words. If I was to say that the Democrats are "baby-killing, AIDS-enabling, Stalinist pigs" would you not call me a card carrying member of the KKK? The Left most definitely would. You are the only sane lefty to leave a post. Think about it.
Posted by: Scott | August 20, 2004 10:55 PM
I saw Mr. McClelland kissing Santa Claus. Santa immediately evacuated the contents of his stomach onto the good Persian rug. Boy, was mother PISSED. It turns out that Mr. McClelland only talks in poo, and frankly, that grossed Santa out REAL bad.
Santa tried to tell Robert that he'd been bad. Santa tried to tell Robert that his mouth and the wretch it spewed was like a black cooler of week-old bait shrimp sitting in a grocery store parking lot in Atlanta in August. Robert wouldn't listen. Robert only wanted the Barbies.
The Barbies don't have nipples, which is good, because Robert doesn't have nipples. Santa was tired of Robert and his non-nippled chesty poo-mouth ways. Robert got chili.
Chili. Robert, that's all you got, dude. Chili.
Posted by: George Traylor | August 21, 2004 02:55 AM
Hey, Left, do you think you could get down off the cross now? We need the wood for a barbecue.
Posted by: Andrea Harris | August 21, 2004 10:03 AM
Andrea, in order for me to feel persecuted I'd first have to care what you think. Which I mostly don't, or I'd leave a real e-mail address and a real weblink. Mostly I just come here to see what the freaks are up to and occasionally throw chum in the water because it's entertaining to watch them get all worked up.
But hey, thanks for that cross joke. I haven't heard that one since the '80s. It's right up there with, "That was so funny, I forgot to laugh."
Which, now that I think about it, makes a certain ammount of sense. A lot of the people who comment here seem to really miss the '80s.
Posted by: The Left | August 21, 2004 12:54 PM
I've waited a couple of days to chime in because I wanted to do some hard thinking.
I grew up and currently live once again, in a state, Ohio, that has endured 50 years of largely Republican misrule, while the country has endured over 35 years of it.
As a result, I am underemployed and slowly being driven to destitution and worsening illness, both physical and mental, in a state which ranks 50th in the nation in new job growth, a state going grey, like me, because people between 18 and 40 are leaving it faster than any other.
It is a state where our Republican governor ("Bobblehead" Bob Taft we call him) calls press conferences to announce that companies have brought 100 new jobs to an Ohio community and the TV News actually covers them!
I also had boots on the ground on the wrong side of fixed bayonets and billy clubs here in Ohio on May 4, 1970.
I know that no one won and we all lost, that we really did not expect to win, and that we fought with pieces of street brick in desperation at our vision of a country gone mad and determined to eat its children.
No matter now whether that vision was true or false. We thought it true and the Ohio National Guard cooperated.
So I stand with one foot in the past of America and, I think, one foot in its future. Neither are very appetizing.
So I ask myself, would I go to New York and do it all again.
No.
I am not desperate, and only a fool, like Mr. Rall, does such things for fun.
I know what we are doing to ourselves as a country, and I know it has a bad end. And I know that, as matters now stand, it is still even money that a bare majority here will actually endorse that bad end.
But even with that, I am not desparate. The future isn't so bad, merely mean and penurious and less private. A slow shrinking of alternatives for all but the luckiest of us. Nothing to get frothed over, nothing to be desperate about.
And nowhere to go but the polling place.
Posted by: Joseph Marshall | August 21, 2004 04:23 PM
You're so cool, Left, I'll bet you wear your sunglasses at night.
Hey -- is that Joseph Marshall making off with your cross? You need to keep an eye on that thing.
Posted by: Andrea Harris | August 23, 2004 10:19 AM
I DO miss the 80's :-(
Posted by: mr lawson | August 23, 2004 03:10 PM
"No wonder 90% of the people who comment here agree with each other. Every one else gets bored and leaves."
This is different from any other blog, how exactly?
Your side seems to total one thread jacker, one cut and paste troll and you ripping the blog writer.
In otherwords, you're a big fucking hypocrite.
Posted by: Ryan | August 24, 2004 01:52 PM
"Mostly I just come here to see what the freaks are up to and occasionally throw chum in the water because it's entertaining to watch them get all worked up."
Nice life. How old are you again...12?
Posted by: Ryan | August 24, 2004 01:57 PM
Ted rall sounds pretty braindead to me just listen to that dweeb blathering his poppycock and scribble his mindless editorial cartoons in the liberal rags to see what a idiots he is just like the ones in hollywood
Posted by: phoenix | September 9, 2004 08:34 AM