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Max Needs a Friend

We're out for the day - big double communion party at the house of our cousins (next door, no travel time!) who really knows how to throw a party. Sure, they won't have Guinness and strawberries, but there will be plenty of good food, lots of alcohol, swimming and those bouncing castle things that are a lot of fun when grownups get too drunk to remember that they aren't kids anymore. I do have something to leave you with, though. Go see what our good friend Max Sawicky is up to. Why do they hate us?? Whyyyyyyy? I have to say, I'm pretty upset that I'm just not making the cut there. Methinks Max is looking for a wee bit of attention. Go rub his head or something and make him feel important.

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Poor little Insty. First he gets left in the dust by the tabloid blogs this week, and now he's guilty by association. Personally, I think if you link to Google, and a site that has something really mean and ugly in the comments section shows up in a Google search, you should be chastised, and your sponsors should be boycotted. You big meanie! How dare you disagree with me!

Also, I thought it might be fun to do a similar contest with one of the lefty blog's blogrolls, but then I realized that those guys are very good at going back and revising/removing lies and hateful posts, so that's a much tougher contest. And even if they did lie, it was your fault! You and Bush!

It's true, I do need a friend. And I have chosen you. I'll be over at 5 pm today with a frisbee and some lemonade.

We don't hate you. We just can't believe the things some of you say, sometimes. As I said on my site, the only crime for which guilt is in question is bad taste.

As for skillzy, it happens that we have a similar contest that applies to my own immense blogroll, also with a $50 first prize. Oddly, so far there are no takers. Good luck!

may all your victories be small.

XOXO,
max(speak)

It's instructive to see what Max's commenters consider "offensive", like suggesting that there's a link between Islam and Islamofascism. Denial - it's not just for residents of Cairo anymore.

I'm glad you are visiting my site and learning.

I imagine that what the commenter and any decent person would find offensive is not a "link," which is a meaningless term in and of itself, but the implication that Islam and Islamofacist are equivalent. Such as when people use the snarky phrase "Islam, Religion of Peace" that slurs the entirety of Muslims, under the pretext of attacking the terrorists.

Thanks for reading and writing.

Well, Max, like I said above, I'd love to nominate Kos's ode to "mercenery" necrophilia (screw them!), but it seems to have vanished! Imagine that! Besides, plenty of people seem to be more than willing to point out moonbattery without the incentive of fifty bucks. And you guys keep tossing them softballs. And then blaming them for being able to hit.

"I imagine that what the commenter and any decent person would find offensive is not a "link," which is a meaningless term in and of itself, but the implication that Islam and Islamofacist are equivalent. Such as when people use the snarky phrase "Islam, Religion of Peace" that slurs the entirety of Muslims, under the pretext of attacking the terrorists."

Wrong, Max. The "ROP" jibe is meant to skewer those who, in response to Islamic terror, reflexively deny that Islam has anything to do with it.

One commentor's idea of absolute evil are the pizza for American troups and pizza for the IDF drives.

I stopped reading there.

Russell -- I don't think we can resolve what is meant without reading minds. What it sounds like, we'll have to agree to disagree on.

I'd go further and affirm that indeed, Islam has nothing to do with it, unless you afford equal obloquy to Christianity "having something to do with" people who shoot doctors, blow up Federal buildings, etc.

skillzy -- I can't help it if left bloggers are better at cleaning up after themselves. I'm told that Google preserves everything, so if you can find it cached and want to enter it, be my guest.

I can't help it if left bloggers are better at cleaning up after themselves

Is that the current euphemism for revisionist history?

Good lord, I wandered over and had an absolute giggle at whole contest thing... the sanctimonious "ooohh! look at the rightwing haters! Aren't we sooooo kewl...we never ever do anything like that! can't we just round 'em up?"

But then, moral clarity hasn't been a strong suit of the contemporary American Left in a long time...witness the "nomination" of Glenn Reynolds post pointing out that Kos's "I love dead mercs" rant was merely indicative of the rot at the center of the Left.

Wow... a whole lotta hate in Glenn, eh? And this whole contest is about Glenn's blogroll

Max and company remind me of jr. high schoolers upset because someone else has been getting the attention they thought they had the monopoly on...

LOL

Michele,

It's not "cleaning up," it's Bart Simpson
I didn't do it, no one saw me do it, there's no way you can prove anything!
I'd go further and affirm that indeed, Islam has nothing to do with it, unless you afford equal obloquy to Christianity "having something to do with" people who shoot doctors, blow up Federal buildings, etc.

Thank you for confirming, Max. You are a moral idiot.

Max: "Islam has nothing to do with it"

According to the Pew polls Osama has a 64% approval rating in Pakistan (down from 89% a year after 9/11 I think), and a 44% aproval rating in Jordan.

It's just a coincidence that these are Mulsim countries?

I could go on and on but I really should create my own web page so that I don't have to make the same arguements over and over.

But the jist of what I want to say is that you're making reasonable assumptions about the Muslim world... They're reasonable, but wrong.

Sometimes assumptions aren't good enough and you have to take the time to do research.

Joshua, your logic escapes me, and evidently mine escapes Darleen.

If refusing to indict a religion, or all who believe in some version of it, for the crimes of a subgroup, is moral idiocy, then I happily cop to that. I'd rather be an idiot than a bigot.

cheers.

I can't speak for anyone else, but when I indict the terrorists of Islam or Muslims who are terrorists, I always say radical Muslim or Islamofacist or whatever strikes me at the moment - but it's always something that cleary defines who I am speaking about.

Mostly, that's not good enough for the leftists who visit here. Honestly, I have no idea what is good enough for them except for wholesale condemnation of our soldiers for the deeds of a few.

skillzy -- I can't help it if left bloggers are better at cleaning up after themselves.

You got me there, hot shot. Maybe if I spent as much time as you guys do crapping on America, the flag, our military, etc. I'd be better at it. But I'll pass.

Well, Max, being charitable, I'd say that you and the others commenting are working off different definitions of what "Islam" is.

Myself and others are using it to refer to the collection of religiously motivated behaviors of its adherents in the present time. You seem to be thinking of it in a more idealized, abstract way. Frankly, your line of reasoning sounds something like, "Islam does not condone violence, therefore those who practice or support violence in Islam's name have nothing to do with Islam."

I find that to be a very unrealistic viewpoint.

As for the analogy with Christian fanatics that kill abortion doctors: bitch, please. A few isolated wackos killing a handful of people and being mercilessly condemned and punished by 99% of their society is decidedly not the same as the extremist strain of Islam, which can claim millions of adherents and who have already succeeded in killing thousands and are quite eager to do the same.

i stopped reading half way through, but up to that point all their examples were from 3 blogs: Misha, Acidman, and Charles. So none of them were trying real hard to find lots of "offensive" blogs, just hitting the same easy targets over and over. And with LGF, they weren't quoting Charles, but picking and choosing from his comment threads. Again, easy pickings, especially if you ignore all the other comments refuting whatever example you've picked.

But I hope they enjoy their orgy of self-congratulation.

I'd rather be an idiot than a bigot.

Well the problem is that any honest assesment of the current state of Muslim societies is horrifying. Muslims are, on the whole bigotted to the point of being a danger.

So anyone who acknoledges this fact and talks about protecting their own society from this danger sounds like a bigot to the uniformed.

So where Mark REALLY stands is that he wants to make fun of people who know more about Islamic societies than he does, so that he can reap some undeserved love from the uninformed.

I can't imagine a better example of the Left's facism than the political correctness inspired by Max's contest.

I don't agree with the Acidman post that went up first (my, but it did seem to make it up awful fast, didn't it?), but I wouldn't want to censor Rob or anyone else either. As Max makes clear in his comment above, there is a party line and you damn well better toe it or you'll find yourself in a re-education camp should he ever be in charge.

As far as all this stuff about kos "cleaning up" after himself, it's a myth. The comment in question caused him a lot of trouble, and his attempts to clarify it didn't go over too well with people, but he's never removed it from the site. It took me 20 seconds on Google to find it, still available on the dailykos.com website.

I noticed that no one in Max's thread mentions that Acidman was roundly condemned for the post that leads off the hit parade.

Max is also pretty loose with the broad brush of bigotry. Convenient when your stock and trade is the custom smear and sneer.

I'd draw a comparison to what Russel points out about anti-abotion extremists willing to kill doctors with the hard core jihadis - I don't think they're religious, but are using religion as a cover.

And if you want to talk about that kind of discrimination - I'll happily discriminate like that all day long, folks.

So, Mike, did Zuniga's comment upset you?

In honor of Max's poster who thought that pizza was proof of evil, I went out and bought some mozerella.

I've developed an alergy to cow's milk, but the original mozerella was buffalo milk and that's the kind I bought. I have no idea whether it will make me itch, but it's worth a try.

So I'm having pizza tonight.

michelle -- Islamofascist or radical Islam are fine, AFAIAC. But your own commenters are struggling to find some element in "Islam" proper, either with jive statistical arguments or simple hysteria, that connects to terrorism.

As for wholesale condemnation of soldiers, no the left position is wholesale condemnation of those with decision-making authority -- the brass, the DoD, and the contractors. It's the right that's landing on the soldiers.

On the Christian-wacko issue, I readily concede the percentage of christian terrorists is infinitely lower than Islamic ones. My point is that the deeds of a subgroup, including very large ones, applied to the group as a whole, much less to a religion, is a noxious stereotype. That is what Joshua is plainly doing in his comment. It's like saying, a higher percentage of blacks are in jail, ergo being black has something to do with winding up in jail.

Yehudit -- our self-congratulation stems in part from the failure of anyone to provide left-wing counterparts in our parallel contest. If you don't play, you can't win!

This is interesting:

I'd draw a comparison to what Russel points out about anti-abotion extremists willing to kill doctors with the hard core jihadis - I don't think they're religious, but are using religion as a cover.

How's that? The murderer of a doctor spouting biblical b.s. up and down is "not religious"? In what sense? That his practice does not follow the tenets of Christianity? If him, why not Osama?

The murderer of a doctor spouting biblical b.s. up and down is "not religious"? In what sense?

Weak argument there Max. If I went out today and killed someone who I think is a rapist because I'm obsessed with "The World According to Garp", and can cite the book chapter and verse, and declare myself an avenging angel of Garp, that doesn't make me religious about John Irving. That makes me a nut case. The dangerous kind of nut case that needs to be locked up or disposed of.

On the other hand, if Eric Rudolph had been giving speeches from Baptist churches advocating killing abortionists while he was on the run from the law, and those churches were giving him aid and support, I'd expect there to be some problems for the Baptists. That's not a religious thing, that's a "breaking the law" thing.

Max is reminding me how much easier it was to be a liberal when white baby harp seals were our darlings instead of terrorists.

Max, from the Iraqi blogger http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/

And for Muslims, who are definitely going to say 'this isn't the real Islam':

"When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives." Surat Mohammed:4

Grow up, and leave the 7th century.
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So yes, Islam is the problem here. Poverty, economic conditions, abuse by so called colonialism, and political frustration are not...

Read the rest on his web site.

Ahhh list making, the categorizing of insults and bad things said....

For a group that screams McCartyism at nearly every point of criticism, I find that very amusing in its irony.

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