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Comments
What about Pink Floyd? Nothing by Pink Floyd? Or how about Zappa?
Posted by: Junkyard God | May 3, 2004 01:40 PM
Any list of top riffs that does not include at least one entry by the Rolling Stones is not worth being propagated.
That is all.
Posted by: Ross | May 3, 2004 01:43 PM
Ditto Pink Floyd, I'll specifically nominate "Wish You Were Here."
"Ironman" or "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath?
"Barracuda" by Heart?
I'd swap "Smoke on the Water" for "Sweet Child O'Mine." It's THE classic guitar riff IMO.
Posted by: MKH | May 3, 2004 01:46 PM
"Cities On Flame", by Blue Oyster Cult: the first true voice of American heavy metal.
Indispensible.
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 01:47 PM
Reelin' in the Years isn't here?
Pppphhhhtttt!!!!!
Posted by: Timmer | May 3, 2004 01:48 PM
Umm... how about "Over the Mountain"? Not only is that a kickass riff, but it also has the best guitar solo ever.
And where's "Master of Puppets"?
I also think Pantera's "Hollow" has a nifty riff, too.
Posted by: Alex Knapp | May 3, 2004 01:53 PM
I nominate:
"Don't Fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult
"Shoot To Thrill" by AC/DC
"Panama" by Van Halen
"Starship Trooper" by Yes
"Sober" by Tool
Posted by: Pietro | May 3, 2004 01:55 PM
"Spirit of Radio" by Rush should be on there. Not everyone likes Rush, but Alex Lifeson's intro is more distinctive than quite a few of the choices on the list.
"What I like about you" by the Romantics comes to mind, too. More of a chord progression than a riff I suppose, though.
Posted by: Midgard | May 3, 2004 01:57 PM
Where is Joe Walsh's "Walk Away"?
Duane Allman's Fillmore East version of "Whipping Post"?
Bind Faith "Sea of Joy"?
Posted by: carl | May 3, 2004 01:58 PM
wha, no "Rock You Like a Hurricane?"
or maybe some Cult "Wild Flower"?
or how about the Crue's "Public Enemy #1"?
oh shit, how about Def Lep's "Photograph"? fuck, everybody knows that one.
Posted by: mikey | May 3, 2004 02:04 PM
I have to say: What were they smokin'?
Honestly, the only reason sweet child o mine would be number 1 would be to tick people off. I mean, c'mon. It's not even the best guns n roses lick, nor is paradise city (Welcome to the Jungle would be much more riff-friendly).
Ditto many of the mentions above - especially pink floyd's "wish you were here" and some Rolling Stones song.
Plug In Baby? Puh-leeze.
Posted by: bryan | May 3, 2004 02:04 PM
Another: "Secret Agent Man", by Johnny Rivers.
On the matter of Frank Zappa: he was the single most-accomplished band leader in all of rock history. All his bands were superbly trained in what I've called "composed improvisation". He drilled his bands on "modules" of melody and time signature, which he would signal onstage like a quarterback calling audibles at the line of scrimage after noting defensive alignments.
The "modules" technique was crafted to suit his moods and improvisational impulses. He used a complex set of signals onstage to call the changes. For instance, he would twirl his fingers as if
playing with a Rasta braid on his head. That meant "Play reggae", and the band would instantly shift rhythmic gears, even if the melody was the first two measures of "God Bless America". He would grab his crotch to signal "Big Balls", and the band went to "heavy metal", no matter what the melody was. He could instantly re-style the tune, live, onstage.
(I'm getting to the point, here...)
He also drilled a complete set of what he called "Archtypical American Musical Icons", including "the Twilight Zone texture", the "Mister Rogers texture", the "Jaws texture", and (in his words) "Things that sound either exactly like or very similar to 'Louie Louie'."
Get it? "Louie Louie" is, indeed, an "Archtypical American Musical Icon". It's as emblematic of the rock impulse as another one that Michele endorses ("Smoke On The Water"), every bit as theoretically simple but difficult to actually groove, and it predates "Smoke" by ten years in real time and whole eras in the rock chronicle.
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 02:08 PM
These are all pretty good riffs. Have to agree we need some David Gilmour in here somewhere; Money would be my pick - most recognizable (and extra points for something in a 7/4 meter...like mom said, "you don't see that every day").
Pretty Woman has a memorable riff too - also covered nicely by Eddie Van Halen.
Posted by: Dave in Texas | May 3, 2004 02:18 PM
My hearing's shot... is Pink Floyd "One Of These Days" riff bass or guitar?
Posted by: Laurence Simon | May 3, 2004 02:18 PM
Odd times: how 'bout "Manic Depression", by Jimi Hendrix -- the first waltz (3/4) time in rock music?
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 02:20 PM
Enter Sandman?
What the fuck ever. I'll agree with Mater of Puppets, but "One" had a better riff than Enter Sandman. Besdies, don't they know that everything after (and including) the Black Album SUCKS. ;)
I can't believe I don't see any Steve Vai on there either.
Posted by: nastybastard | May 3, 2004 02:21 PM
U2. Where the Streets Have No Name. 'Nuff said.
Posted by: Andrew Duncalfe | May 3, 2004 02:33 PM
I wasn't really into Metallica until the black album, and then I went back to the old stuff. Other people hate Metallica for "selling out" with the Black album (or is it for finally making videos?) and I think it's a great album. The major reason I never heard them before "One" is cuz no one I knew was into them. I'll be 40 in a month, so it isn't an age thing.
All those riffs are good. I would probably change the order, add some others. Making a top twenty on this topic will always piss a lot of people off.
Posted by: david in mn | May 3, 2004 02:41 PM
What technically counts as a riff? I think of "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (sub in "Breed"?) as four chords strung together, similar to "More Than a Feeling". Same with "Back in Black" and "Smoke on the Water". Never heard of #13.
In terms of riff minimalism, I prefer RATM's "People of the Sun" to "Killing in the Name".
Posted by: Norbizness | May 3, 2004 02:54 PM
I'd agree with "Louie Louie".
I'd add Joe Walsh's "Funk 49", Led Zep's "Heartbreaker" and/or "Black Dog", and Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love"
(I think the list is way too heavy on metal. The classic rock riffs have been around longer and are more engrained in the American collective musical psyche.)
Interesting side note about "Smoke on the Water". Just about everyone who learns to play this as a kid plays it wrong. They play it in fifths (power chords), but the actual riff is in fourths.
Posted by: Farmer Joe | May 3, 2004 02:55 PM
No Mark Knopher?
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2004 02:55 PM
Oops. Just noticed Black Dog was on there.
Posted by: Farmer Joe | May 3, 2004 02:56 PM
Mark Knophler - sorry!
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2004 02:56 PM
Yeah, Mary, I'd love to see some Knopfler on there, too. I think just about everyone would recognize the Sultains of Swing riff.
Posted by: Farmer Joe | May 3, 2004 02:57 PM
China Grove by the Doobies
Freeway Jam by Jeff Beck
Long Time by Boston
Helter Skelter by the Beatles
Sweet Child O' Mine is a real good one IMHO.
Posted by: Pat Curley | May 3, 2004 03:03 PM
Kinks - You've Really Got Me
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2004 03:05 PM
Creedence Clearwater Revival -- "Suzie-Q".
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 03:09 PM
I agree with Sultans of Swing. Also, Hotel California. Any long guitar riff you can actually sing is a damn fine extended guitar riff.
Posted by: Jeff G | May 3, 2004 03:23 PM
"Frankenstein" by the Edgar Winters Group. It should be way near the top.
"American Woman".
I like No-One Knows and all, but top twenty? And I've never heard of "Plug in Baby".
Posted by: dorkafork | May 3, 2004 03:25 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't count Teen Spirit as a "riff" either. OTOH, every song on that list you know exactly what song it is immediately. The list makes a LOT more sense from that angle.
Posted by: Ian S. | May 3, 2004 03:27 PM
Ooh, and "Owner of a Lonely Heart". I'm thinking of riffs that I could picture Beavis & Butthead "singing".
Posted by: dorkafork | May 3, 2004 03:29 PM
If we're going with the Beavis and Butthead method of choosing, then definitely Iron Man and Breakin' the Law.
Posted by: michele | May 3, 2004 03:38 PM
No Stevie Ray Vaughn??
Posted by: Beth | May 3, 2004 03:47 PM
No ZZ Top? Cheap Sunglasses.
Posted by: Beth | May 3, 2004 03:48 PM
You know what's missing here, don't you? PUNK!
"Should I Stay or Should I Go" by the Clash.
"Teenage Lobotomy" or "Blitzkrieg Bop" by the Ramones
other suggestions?
Posted by: bryan | May 3, 2004 03:49 PM
Hi -
Well, Voodoo Chile (slight return) is what I've been using to "start me up" for almost 5 years now...
But: For a truly fantastic riff, Lark's Tongues in Aspic Pt 1 from King Crimson. Slow build up to a fantastically lush lick. Pt. 2 isn't bad either.
And Johnny Rivers "Secret Agent Man" is one of the first licks my daughter picked out on her Fender acoustic.
John
Posted by: John F. Opie | May 3, 2004 04:11 PM
Roadhouse Blues - The Doors
Rebel Rebel - D. Bowie
Wild Wild Life - Talking Heads
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2004 04:13 PM
I'll have to second Roadhouse Blues.
Posted by: michele | May 3, 2004 04:19 PM
"Life in the Fast Lane"
Posted by: Farmer Joe | May 3, 2004 04:27 PM
Folks, there wouldn't even BE such a thing as rock & roll guitar without Chuck Berry. This entire list added together doesn't equal the guitar work in Johnny B Goode...
Posted by: MikeR | May 3, 2004 04:37 PM
I don't agree with the list mostly because I differ on what a 'riff' is. A riff to me is really a progressive chord like in 'Start Me Up' or 'HighWay To Hell', whereas songs like 'Sweet Child O' Mine' and 'You Shook Me All Night Long' are licks.
I'll expand more on this on my blog.
Posted by: Jay | May 3, 2004 04:42 PM
No Dick Dale? Arghhh!
Posted by: elgato | May 3, 2004 04:52 PM
Santana?
Allman Brothers?
Posted by: Aaron's Rantblog | May 3, 2004 05:01 PM
I'd add When Doves Cry, by Prince, which has that instantly identifiable opening riff.
Posted by: Scott | May 3, 2004 05:05 PM
Aaron -
"Ramblin' Man" for sure.
How about "Jailhouse Rock"?
Posted by: Farmer Joe | May 3, 2004 05:08 PM
Throw a few in:
I know Michele disdains Bruce, but really: Born to Run. Seeds is also a much-underrated riff, and I'm also partial to the opening strains of Cadillac Ranch.
Satisfaction and Jumpin' Jack Flash. (And don't forget Gn'R's version of the latter, short-lived though its airplay was).
Speaking of versions, the Jimi Hendrix BBC version of Day Tripper.
Lenny Kravitz, Are You Gonna Go My Way
The basic Bo Diddley riff; my favorite take is George Thorogood's cover of Who Do You Love?
Petty, Runnin' Down a Dream.
And as to Knopfler, there are few more breathtaking moments in rock than when that long buildup at the beginning of Money for Nothing breaks into the guitar riff.
Posted by: Crank | May 3, 2004 05:09 PM
I must stand up for my heritage here: "FREEBIRD!"
Virtually anything by the Allman Brothers. The Outlaws and "Green Grass and High Tides Forever."
Also, some of the Bon Scot era AC/DC stuff had great riffs notably the somewhat obscure "Whole Lotta Rosie" and the classics "Highway to Hell" and "TNT."
Hendrix: "Purple Haze."
Def Leppard: "Pyromania."
Posted by: James Joyner | May 3, 2004 05:18 PM
Jesus! Where's "Sweet Jane" and "Rock and Roll?" No Lou Reed fans left in the world?
Posted by: spd rdr | May 3, 2004 05:38 PM
I have three. Mississippi Queen by Mountain, Rocky Mountain Way by Joe Walsh, and Brown Sugar by the Stones have to be on the list.
Posted by: mailman | May 3, 2004 05:38 PM
Jay, I found a music site that described riffs thusly:
A riff can be thought of as a clearly defined phrase that is unique to a song. The riff in "Day Tripper," for example, is instantly recognizable as an important part of the song; it's the hook, the musical catchphrase.
Licks (to me) are what you find in solos and improvisational playing, rather than repeating part of the song structure. The beginning of "Back in Black" would be a riff that strongly defines the song, the guitar solo would be licks that are more freeform and expressive.
That's my take anyways.
Posted by: Midgard | May 3, 2004 05:39 PM
"Breaking the Law" and "Living After Midnight," by Judas Priest. And I second "Iron Man," to displace "Paranoid."
Posted by: Xrlq | May 3, 2004 05:49 PM
. . . 'bout "Manic Depression", by Jimi Hendrix -- the first waltz (3/4) time in rock music?
Not even. The Beatles were regular users of 3/4 before Hendrix even recorded Are You Experienced? So, to my recollection, were Pink Floyd.
Posted by: Phil | May 3, 2004 06:14 PM
Umm, I know it's cheesy 8/8 crap built for early disco beat but... Start Me Up doesn't get mentioned for the most recognizable opening riff ever?
Posted by: Patrick | May 3, 2004 06:20 PM
"Cheap Sunglasses"? Gimme a bleedin' break, already. If we're talking riffs, and we're talking ZZ Top, then we're talking "Just Got Paid".
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 06:32 PM
Phil: The Beatles, I could see, although I would be interested in the cite. If Pink Floyd did it before Hendrix, though, it needs to be on "Piper At The Gates of Dawn" because that was the only one of their records to drop before Jimi's "Experienced?", by a mere eighteen days.
Posted by: Billy Beck | May 3, 2004 06:41 PM
All this discussion and no one has mentioned "Satisfaction"? Maybe the criteria should be riffs that most people would recognize within the first 4 beats. Can you hum it without hearing it? I would include many in the original top 20, but change about half out. Any rock fan should instantly know these riffs (in no particular order):
Satisfaction
Smoke on the Water
Day Tripper
Brown Sugar
Start Me Up
One Way Out
Highway to Hell
Tush
Crazy Train
Whole Lotta Love
Layla
Walk this Way
Gimme Three Steps
Black Dog
Stairway to Heaven (more a chord patten than a riff, but again, who wouldn't recognize it immediatly)
Sweet Child O' Mine
Blackbird
Wish You Were Here
Back in Black
You Shook Me All Night Long
Jumpin Jack Flash
Posted by: tillUrDizzy | May 3, 2004 07:28 PM
Good call on "One Way Out". Not that it's in the same class, but bonus points for Inna-gadda-da-vida, since any riff good enough that the band feels compelled to make up nonsense to sing along to it has to be good.
Posted by: Crank | May 3, 2004 08:19 PM
Lawrence, your hearing may not be as bad as you think. It's a very funky sound...two basses, one with bright sounding new strings, and another with flat string on a delay.
Posted by: Dave in Texas | May 3, 2004 08:19 PM
Crank, as the legend goes, Doug Ingle was so messed up he couldn't pronounce "in the garden of Eden, baby".
Posted by: Dave in Texas | May 3, 2004 08:24 PM
Riff, or break? This is all moot, of course.
But the long end-break on Hotel California is absolutely devastating.
And Stevie Ray Vaughn just may be the best blues guitarist, ever.
Posted by: Loren | May 3, 2004 09:03 PM
Great post, great comments. I particularly second "Start Me Up" and "Barracuda". Now give me a second while I rack my brain and my record collection to make an origingal contribution.
Posted by: asher abrams | May 3, 2004 09:40 PM
Midgard, the part that makes a song easily recognizable from the musicians I talk to is the 'hook'.
I guess it's pretty open to interpretation.
Posted by: Jay | May 3, 2004 09:45 PM
"Heart Full of Soul" - the Yardbirds.
The theme music for KOMA - in its day.
Posted by: M. Simon | May 3, 2004 10:23 PM
When I think Yardbirds, I think Train Kept A Rollin'.
Posted by: michele | May 3, 2004 10:24 PM
Quicksilver's version of "Who Do You Love"
Posted by: M. Simon | May 3, 2004 11:08 PM
Link Wray "Rumble", The Stooges "I Wanna Be Your Dog", Television "Marquee Moon".
Posted by: Joel | May 3, 2004 11:11 PM
You and Me
Ride my Seesaw
Lovely to See You
---Moody Blues
Posted by: Alan Kellogg | May 3, 2004 11:36 PM
Queen, "Keep Yourself Alive." I'm sure someone other than me remembers that, though it never got the airplay it deserved.
And if we're going to do ZZ Top, make it "Sharp Dressed Man."
The Van Halen should be "Finish What You Started."
Mark Knopfler?--I'll take "Tunnel of Love," from the Making Movies album.
Heart--"Barracuda" (or possibly "Magic Man").
DEVO--"Mongoloid."
Posted by: Attila Girl | May 4, 2004 02:38 AM
I'd go with Muse - Muscle Museum. It's out of the ordinary, melodic and emotional. Plus: it rocks!
Posted by: flo | May 4, 2004 02:56 AM
Doobie Brothers - Long Train Runnin
Posted by: Dave in Texas | May 4, 2004 09:24 AM
I think they at least need another Van Halen tune up there! Come on!
Posted by: Robert | May 4, 2004 11:18 AM
de gustibus non es disputandum
Posted by: compos mentis | May 4, 2004 05:55 PM
more ac/dc and iron should be up there and more zeppelin and smoke on water should be first
Posted by: jackson | May 8, 2004 07:57 PM