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Wow. First question had the word quagmire in it. You should be in the TCP chat. Lots of great commentary in there. When are the reporters going to come up with some new questions? We are a year into the war - there is so much going on in Fallujah and Najaf right now - why are they asking the same WMD questions that they have been asking - and gotten answers for - for a full year? Quote from TCP chat: "Mr. President, can you tell me what date the quagmire will begin and what date it will end?" and: "love this...9/11--why didn't you pre-empt on little evidence? Iraq...why DID you pre-empt on even better evidence?" Holy arrogance, batman! The press are circling like sharks. You never admit a mistake?? TCP quote: "We are going to slay you if you admit any errors...why won't you admit errors?" Bush is looking pissed off. Good. I'm liking his answers and his forcefulness. OH MY GOD!!! He had the nerve to blame UBL for 9/11! Doesn't he know that he and Clinton and the FBI are to blame? Sheesh. He's speaking as if he is a kindergarten teacher explaining hte concept of math to a class. And it's sad that he has to. These reporters are like petulant little kids. Heh: "Claire: No, really, GWB. G'head and use the Big Purple Crayon" Well, that went both ways. Some good, some bad. But damn, the press are wankers.

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HAIL TO THE CHIEF!!!!!! errr sorry I get carried away now and then. I am having whippet flashbacks ;)

Anyone playing the drinking game would've been dead after the first 5 questions. Yes, that liberal media.

I shlould be pissed, exslept that I'm shlollready pissht alshready. Whoo hoo! Somebod'ly trip Helen Thlomas!

The problem with having to drink that much is that you wake, roll over, and see Helen Thomas naked in bed with you.

shudder!!!

You're (hic) gonna die for that vision, capt. joe

Thank you, capt. joe, now I'm afraid to go to sleep for the rest of my life.

Surrounded by lefties at work. Just had to come and get a little "ah... others feel like me".

I agree on the assessment. Some good, some bad, but I think he came off pretty darn well considering the White House press corps is a bunch of jerks.

Yeah, the questions were getting on my nerves a bit too.

"ADMIT YOU SCREWED UP! SOMEWHERE! ANYWHERE! ADMIT IT, GOD DAMNED YOU!"

I swear if they could they'd have Bush tied up in a chair in a darkened room with a spotlight in his eyes while somebody was punching him in the stomache...

I agree about the questions being redundant and insipid.
Bsti:"What were you thinking after the first update on the highjackings as you prepared to go to Booker Elementary? How about after the second update in the limo? And the third as you sat in the classroom, then remained for a full 1/2 hour?
Why did you tell the media that you had seen the first plane hit the towers on TV at that classroom when in fact it had not been televised until the next day?
Why were Saudis allowed to fly around the country during flight stoppage, and why were they immediately released when it was lifted?

I'd have others, but overall I think he did pretty good for the first president to ever be installed by means other than the usual democratic method. Much as I don't like Bush, he's better than Kerry I suppose. Give him four more (or at least let the SC assure it) so we can get real, intelligent leadership in '04.

uh, I meant '08.

I think our President did a fabulous job. I missed a couple questions while chasing the dog around the house...long story...

He did artfully dodge the traps laid by some of the questioners about "Hey! Admit you were WRONG!!!!" or whatever words they used to the same effect.

I flat out LOVED his response to the question: "This is an election year Mr. President and the polls seem to be turning against you. Do you fear losing your job?" or some such. His answer loosely quoted, "I don't think I'm gonna lose my job, but if the people of America change then I am gone...but I don't govern by polls" EXCELLENT!

This president is a man of principles...you may disagree with his principles but you simply cannot deny he HAS principles and will not back away from them.

btsi:

Do we HAVE to get into this? I swear, if I have to go over election 2000 ONE MORE TIME I'm going to go postal.

Bush won the election. Look it up. Or don't.

"This president is a man of principles...you may disagree with his principles but you simply cannot deny he HAS principles and will not back away from them."

Wayne Fielder,
My comment exactly. Thanks for bringing it home so well.

The overpaid, overdrunk bastards shoulda been paying attention during that one "Curb Your Enthusiasm" episode wherein Larry says to Richard Lewis et al:

"Let's just all go upstairs, get under the covers and SOB!!"

Dubya is twice the man AlBore wishes he could've been; where does that leave Kerry?

W's in charge, in command, in control, and in touch with his inner self, which doesn't seem to need to borrow much from his feminine side when it comes to death. That part comes later when the cameras are off, like it should be.

I love this man.

"Do we HAVE to get into this?"

Not at all. Whether he got the most votes or not, the SC appointed him. First time that's ever happened, correct?
He was appointed rather than elected, an unprecedented event,
is really all I'm saying.
And it's not btsi, it's Bsti, as in beastie from WTWTA. It is my actual real name.
"I swear, if I have to go over election 2000 ONE MORE TIME I'm going to go postal."

You say that like I should have heard of you and/or read anything you've written. I haven't in both cases.

For someone the left tries to portray as an idiot he certainly did an admirable job of fending off their attacks tonight.

He scored major points against the left's assertion that the coalition is just window dressing.

Bsti -

I beg to differ. The SC simply said the Florida SC couldn't override the Florida State Constitution. Said document gave the direction to the SecState of Florida to certify the election results at date certain(I believe that is 30days after the election). Mr. Gore had requested a recount of the southern counties in question and Mr. Bush wanted a recount of the entire state but then backed down to allow the recount...3 TIMES. Each time Mr. Bush had the most votes...even without a whole bunch of Military votes sent in as absentee ballots and thrown out for a variety of reasons. When SecState Harris certified the election, that gave Mr. Bush enough electoral votes to win the election and so he became President Elect Bush.

It's all pretty simple really...unless you are bitter that you lost an incredibly close election and would have to endure REAL leadership for a while rather than a confessed liar, alleged rapist, and confirmed draft dodger soiling the seat of Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt.

"...rather than a confessed liar, alleged rapist, and confirmed draft dodger soiling the seat of Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt."

...as opposed to the unconfessed liar, drunk, ex-cokehead and draft-dodger currently occupying the seat?

Hyperbole's fun! Let's play again!

Mike -

I voted for Clinton twice and supported him right up to the time he told me he lied on national television. I will follow this President to the same grave if necessary. I respect the Presidency if not the man in office and will NOT call a sitting President a liar unless he or she gives me a solid reason to. If you have PROOF, and I mean solid, written evidence of this President lieing to the American people let's have it...otherwise an apology is in order.

As for President Bush's drunken youth...he has nothing on me but thankfully we both got over it and have grown up. I have heard the rumors of cocaine but don't have anything to back that up. Let's assume he did cocaine, heroin, meth, and crack back in the day...again...he grew up and got over it. I didn't hold it against Clinton when he admitted to Pot usage...I won't hold against President Bush.

Draft Dodger? No sir. While he didn't join the Regular Army and while he may well have gotten into the Texas Guard through his dad's coat tails...HE DID SERVE. He didn't run off to england under the guise of "scholarship" and then rant against his country. No sir...President Bush did not do that traiterous act.

And while we're talking about military service let's have a look at Senator Kerry's. He served honorably and I'm proud of his service to my Country. However, then he comes home and tells about all these war crimes he "heard" about. Hmmm...when I was in the Army I was under STANDING ORDERS to report illegal activity to my superiors. If Senator Kerry DID NOT, then he is liable for Court Martial to this very day I believe.

Balls in your court friend.;)

bsti and Mike: you're just trying to stir up some shit, right? Tell me you don't really believe this tripe you're slinging? Mebbe some others on this site who've been here longer than me know you to be the trolls you are, slithering through the muck, clutching at what efflucence you can drag back to your loathesome holes?

You remind me of the Palis, forever re-fighting a battle that never happened, then arguing about the results... move on dot org, indeed.

God bless our Constitution, God bless our country, and God bless our President. Your lives must be so empty and meaningless if you're reduced to wishing otherwise. Dissent is one thing, blind rage is another.

Would that you both grow up long enough to know the difference.

All presidents lie.All Of Them. And we should always be critical of sitting presidents because that is our job as citizens of this country.
There. That should effectively end this particular thread. But I'm betting it won't.

I don't care. Glad Gore wasn't at the wheel, to be honest. But that doesn't mean I HAVE to like Bush.
I just hate him less. A little.

Bsti-

Critical...yes. Slanderous...no. You have every right to hate whoever you like. ;)

BTW, you said that is your real name...what ethnicity is it? I'm sincerely curious.

Well, I am Russian, but my first name hasn't a thing to do with that. My parents apparently loved that book enough to give me a hippie name. I should mention that I am a product of a cult partnership that was the hip thing to do in the 60's I guess.

Let me get this straight, Bsti...you believe that Bush had prior knowledge about the hijackings, and let it slip in his statements immediately following? Or was it just a speaking gaffe, as he's prone to do? Talk about ridiculous slander.

Wayne -

retroactively defining service in the Texas Guard (or any Guard service in the way President Bush, Dan Quayle and many others used it) during Vietnam as anything BUT draft-dodging is simply ridiculous. Additionally, President Clinton DID submit to the draft, and wasn't chosen when his lottery number came in high. How does that fact qualify him a draft-dodger?

Geezer - you need a rectal-cranial inversion, my friend. I provided an honest, pointed response to someone else's overwrought hyperbole, fighting fire with fire (in case you missed it). I don't personally subscribe to the viewpoint I sarcastically espoused, but Wayne's response to BSTI was just a insipid. If you can't see that, you need to pass something harder than the third grade.

Additionally, President Clinton DID submit to the draft, and wasn't chosen when his lottery number came in high. How does that fact qualify him a draft-dodger?

http://www.compleatheretic.com/pubs/addendum/loathing.html#dodge

"First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft..."

" I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year..."

" I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system..."

"When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance." (by the way, would this equate to Bush's enrolling in the National Guard?)

"At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board..."

Yeah, he willingly submitted to the draft...now pull the other one, it plays "JIngle Bells..."

I thought the "why Iraq but not Afghanistan" question was a softball, intended to let him point out the absurdity of people saying he's too proactive inn one case and not proactive enough in the other. He sure used it that way.

Any idea whoasked it?

So if the Press is against the President and the left is against the President it must mean the elite right understands him.

Glad he was able to break things down for the simple folks who dont know why were there.

"Whether he got the most votes or not, the SC appointed him. First time that's ever happened, correct?"

Whoever was declared the winner was going to be declared the winner based on something the SCOTUS did. It's the Constitutional Court, and the Presidency is a Constitutional office. All that was necessary was for one side to keep litigating, and with ~50 million supporters on either side, who was going to give up?

Anyway. What amazes me is that there are so many legitimate criticisms of the President that one could run with, and that would find many of us nodding our heads, but people feel the necessity to advance the most ridiculous tinfoil-hat notions all the same. Do his critics really believe that the most toxic charges are the ones required to sway the middle ground against him? They must take a dim view of the electorate if that's the case.

If the Democrats had had the sense to nominate Joe Lieberman, he'd probably have my vote -- but instead they (and their accomplices in the influential newsrooms) have decided to wallow in a misplaced, delusional outrage. So I don't think I have any choice but to vote for Bush.

The Supreme Court made no determination in regards to who became president. They appointed no one. They did put an end to the endless, patternless vote counting that the Florida Supreme court was willing to allow. But that is all they did.

Serving in the National Guard or Reserves is no guarantee of avoiding action--as our Guardsmen and resrvists well know. The left's insistence on this point leaves them sneering at the soldiers they claim to support when they feel the need to justify their generally treasonous stance.

dell sez:
"So if the Press is against the President and the left is against the President ..."

Why the redundancy? Once you've mentioned the left, you've included the Press as a subset.

What treasonous stance would you be referring to, Jack? How does characterizing the tactic of avoiding service in Vietnam by serving in the Guard qualify as such, if that's the point you're making? How does criticizing our war in Iraq make one treasonous, if THAT's the point you're making? Mind you I support the Iraq War, but on a purely speculative level I'd like to understand your reasoning in labeling an American citizen expressing their opinion as "treasonous."

oh, and ChesireCat:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/draftletter.html

GREENFIELD (VO)

Clinton has long acknowledged his opposition to the Vietnam war. As a Rhodes scholar in England, he helped organize an anti - war protest in November of 1969. But he has also said that it was his doubts about the morality of the war and the Selective Service system that led him to abandon the ROTC idea and to subject himself to a draft lottery. Only the luck of the draw - a high lottery number - kept him out. One of his friends from his Oxford days strongly backs Clinton's story.

MICHAEL MANDELBAUM, CAMPAIGN ADVISOR

The recollection of people who knew Bill Clinton well, who were with him every day, was that when he arrived back in Oxford in the fall of 1969, he expected that he would be drafted. He was so uncertain about his future and so uncertain about how much of the year he would be able to complete at Oxford that he did not rent a room for himself. He lived with friends instead.

So, you know, there's that.

Forgeting for a moment what a cockbite GWB is, allow me to say this. Press confrences like this one are a joke. Everyone asks questions and all the people in the pulpit do is dodge with the same crap answers over and over.

Favorite Bushism to date:

"We will strike a blow for terrorisim."