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Answering Grandpa Rooney's Questions

Thanks to Dave from MA (former Long Islander!) for answering old man Rooney's questions. Dave was deployed to Iraq last year with the 106th Rescue Wing. Visit him at Humptyblog, where he has posted fabulous photos from Iraq.
1. Do you think your country did the right thing sending you into Iraq? Yes, and so did everyone around me. 2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy, or have we failed so badly that we should pack up and get out before more of you are killed? We did what we were there to do, no thanks to douchebags like you. 3. Do the orders you get handed down from one headquarters to another, all far removed from the fighting, seem sensible, or do you think our highest command is out of touch with the reality of your situation? They never seem sensible, but the farthest HQ we had to deal with was in Qatar, and they weren't out of touch at all. 4. If you could have a medal or a trip home, which would you take? I hate this question. How about a democratic Iraq, followed by a democratic Middle East? And maybe a 1-way trip to Iraq for cock-jockeys like you. 5. Are you encouraged by all the talk back home about how brave you are and how everyone supports you? Ignoring your sarcasm, yes, we were encouraged by it. We were not encouraged by Time magazine's cover "Mission Not Accomplished!", among other things.
Thank you, Dave. Anyone else?

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That does it, my suspicions have been confirmed. Those are not Andy Rooney's eyebrows, nor are they a matching set of push brooms. They are a symbiotic alien life form that has attached to his face and is controlling him through some sort of mind meld.

I can't believe how idiotic the questions from Rooney are.

I found a draft of Rooney's original column, and there was a sixth question on it: "Would you prefer to stay in Iraq and get infested with the gnats of a thousand camels while being shot at by crazed Shi'ite militiamen all day long, or would you prefer to come home and win the lottery and spend all your time lounging by the pool whil ebeing served drinks by supermodels?"

I love Dave's answer to #4.

of course, we all know that Rooney and his ilk won't set foot in a place like Iraq - at least not before the American (and other) troops he seems to enjoy taunting have made it a safe place for even bozos like him.

Funny, he doesn't sound like a victim to me...

Andy Rooney: Douchebag for Liberty!

Some random thoughts:

That's another thing that I hate- how the left makes it seem that even without a draft, we're not really volunteers, because we had no other choice but to join the military.

I joined the New York Air National Guard in my senior year of high school. I was partially motivated by not having to pay tuition at SUNY schools, but it was mostly because it was what I wanted to do. Even in that pre-9/11 world (spring of 2000), I knew that I was expected to deploy every 18 months or so. And if I would've known back then that I would spend a month and a half in Baghdad, I would've signed the enlistment papers even faster.

I can't believe that there are people that join the military and are shocked that they might have to see combat, or decide after 5 years that they're really a "conscientious objector". But they are an extremely small minority in the military.

My unit has had 3 deployments since 9/11, and in that time some members of our unit have decided that they want to spend more time with their families, or with their civilian employers. But I can't think of too much whining that went on, especially in regards to the Iraq deployment.

Bobby (not Dave! :))

A trip home or a medal, huh?

Didn't Kerry get both?

In any case, his last question is utterly illogical, a false dichotomy. I used to enjoy reading his stuff. I can't see myself enjoying this.

Hey folks...speaking seditious drivel...

anyone from the St. Pete area of Florida? I would LOVE to get my hands on the latest issue of the "GABBER", a weekly tabloid thingy from that area. Apparently the St. Pete Democrats Club published an article/ad today saying something to the effect that we should put Rummy against the wall and "pull the trigger" because "this is one of our bad days".

if anyone has a hard copy I would appreciate a FAX of it...

Sorry michele...this won't happen again but I'm dying to see this thing

I'm here now at work. Never heard of the rag, don't plan on buying one.

Just another story that will get washed over as some right-wing overreaction.

Andy Rooney is just pining for the days when the Little People (and Big Media) joined forces to end a war and topple a President. It was the Greatest Moment for a certain class and a certain generation, and it's sad when a Greatest Moment was 30 years ago.

Mark Poling:

They're sure trying now. Spinning an election is sure easier than impeaching a president.

I always thought that Rooney was a dim bulb. Then at some point I lost what little respect I had - he made a racist comment or something - I forget.

I love Dave's answers, though.

Strange that the country's moral initive has switched to the Republicans - the democrats become more vile by the day. Unwilling to admit even the existance of our new responsibilites, they flash their self-rightiousness credentials and scream "Don't you know who I AM?"

Democratic strategy is going to come back and bite them on the ass. Read Kaus today:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2098719/

Dems expected Bush to be hurt by the 9/11 commission. Instead he got a bounce. And they still keep banging that drum.

idiotic questions indeed, especially #2.
"2. Are you doing what America set out to do to make Iraq a democracy"

We went in to depose what we considered a threat to the US; democracy was a PR incidental. Disarming Saddam was the cause, liberation was an effect.

I posted Nerdstar's answers to these this morning.

Bsti, you are sounding awfully even handed these days. Are you ok?

I'm in the USAF rather than the Army, and my post is in Qatar rather than Iraq, but I'll take a swing, too.

1. Yes. I willingly and uncomplainingly gave up my 6th Anniversary, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's to work 12-hour shifts for 65 days straight (no days off) in order to support this action. It is a necessary step in the Global War on Terror. In fact, even though I just got back in January, I volunteered to go early again. This time it looks like I'll get to miss my birthday, my wife's birthday, and Independence day. But I'll be celebrating Iraq's independence, so it will be worth it.
2. Andy, simple questions are best. Within the very first line of this question, you distorted the issue. We are in Iraq for several reasons. We have already eliminated a significant source of funding for terrorism in the Levant and the world. We have eliminated multiple training locations for international terrorists. We stopped a depraved butcher from slaughtering his own people and continuing his own plans to someday attack the US on its own soil. That's now: we pulled up the weed. Now we are spending time there to bring about an environment that will prevent such a noxious weed from springing up again. We've already won the most important, quickest, and most difficult part of the battle there. Now we face a test of wills, and patience, and restraint. We are winning this phase of the war, too, but it doesn't always look like it in the middle of the battle, just like the Battle of the Bulge you took part in.
3. Another distortion. The US Military allows an unprecedented latitude to the commander in the field, the guys with boots in the dust. Nice attempt to draw a Viet Nam parallel, but while that might float in the toilet, it doesn't float here. To address the basic issue, however: yes, our leaders have made some mistakes, because no one is omniscient or omnipresent or omnipotent. They've also made some stunningly correct decisions. Despite the "unbiased" media trying to politicize the deaths of soldiers, the death toll for the entire year is still far less than was originally predicted we would lose just tring to reach Baghdad. Try to have some perspective, will you? If that's too hard, at least try to remember the cockamamie predictions of disaster you armchair generals had at the beginning, will you? You lost credibility a long time ago; sniping and carping does nothing to bring it back.
4. If you really wanted to learn anything, rather than just trying to score cheap points with a "Have you stopped beating your kids yet?" blatant cheap shot, you might ask, "Would you prefer a medal or a ticket back?" You'd be suprised at the number of guys who would rather continue fighting for the US there. Sure, there's always some who don't. Selfless Service is the military ideal, but sometimes it takes a few years for the individual to actually adopt that attitude. But we are a team. I'm going back, willingly and ahead of schedule. If confronted with the enemy, I'll fight like hell to make sure he's the one who doesn't go home again, but if fate results in my death, it is a willing sacrifice. You may spit on my grave, but my children will know who the hero is.
5. We don't do it for the glory and thanks, no. We do it for the well-being of the nation, the safety of our loved ones, and the Brotherhood of War. But we do accept thanks from anyone who can do it without a sneer. We don't need any of your false gratitude.

Nathan,

Thank you. For everything.

Yes, big thanks to Nathan and all the other men and women fighting to keep us safe, and to bring freedom to Iraq.

applauds

Michele and Sunidesus, thanks. Your thanks means something to me.
However, while I did respond to Mr. Rooney, I am not really one of the people who deserve your thanks. I go through the inconvenience of being away from my wife and kids for a number of weeks, but never for a year straight, and never to risk my life like the boys on the ground.
Even in my 7 years in the Army, I was a REMF. Not by choice, necessarily, but I was in a critically-understrength field and no way to get out of it. As I am now, or I'd be bustin' whatever I had to apply for the USAF Pararescue unit.
However, despite my willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice, I'm not in a position to do so. All I can do at this point is turn to Uncle Sam and say, "Whatever you need me to do. If all I do is clean toilets, that frees someone else to fight and ensures they don't have to deal with dirty toilets on top of an insurgency."

And while you may not think so, you'd say and do the exact same thing.

On 9/11, some foreign leaders said some insincere platitudes about "We are all Americans, now." But we in the military can feel your support, and in a very real sense, in our will and determination and prayers, we are all soldiers now*

*well, except for idiots like Andy Rooney and his ilk.