A Small Victory

I forget -- where is that crazy-ass "God told me to strike al-Qaida" quote from?

I know it was attributed to Bush (ha ha), but who actually made that attribution?

I did a google search and got a bunch of tinfoil-hat sites.

You know, if Bush had one of those itty bitty Hitler moustaches, and combed his hair kinda down, you know, right to left, oh and if he killed 6 million Jews, well now that would be some similarity.

Dan, that was attributed to Bush by that world leader and statesman, former Palestinian PM Mohammed Abbas. Kinda ironic that the source is a noted Holocaust denier, ain't it?

Here's the link, by the by.

well responding to the challenge...

1. Hitler and Bush are both homo sapiens with two arms, two legs, two eyes and most of the numbers on the rest of the body parts probably match up too.

2. Hitler and Bush were both in the habit of eating three meals a day, speaking in latin derived languages and every now and then read books.

3. Hitler and Bush were both heterosexual to the best of our knowledge.

I can't help but understand how anyone can not see that this is an airtight case proving that Bush is just like Hitler...unless Karl Rove got to them first.

I think instead of a rant someone should list the ways the Democratic nominees are like Hitler:

Dean:
1) Neither served in Vietnam.
2) Supporters of both described as "angry"
3) Both "charismatic" speakers

Clark:
1) Both served in the military
2) Both were wounded in action
3) Both attacked the Balkans

Kucinich:
1) Both are vegetarians
2) ???
3) Profit

Sharpton:
Only one similarity, but gets extra points since that similarity is inciting violence against Jews.

Scott,

Sharpton and Hitler have both spent time in prison, too. Wow, this can be fun!

Is anyone surprised that this happened? Are left plotting to get almost every American Jew to vote Republican? It would make it easier for them.

Is anyone surprised that this happened? Are left plotting to get almost every American Jew to vote Republican? It would make it easier for them.

hi, i'm one of those 'crazy nuts on the left' (an activist and organizer at that!) and i have to say that this is one area where i agree with you.

all my collegeues over here on this side keep doing this whole nazi / hitler thing with the current administration.. and while i think the vast vast vast majority of their actions are simply unacceptable and some of the rather atrocious and simply unacceptable as far as human rights goes, the comparison is not acceptable.

bush has not systematically murdered 11 million people, bush has not waged a campaign to encourage genocide. yes, he has encouraged a campaign to target the rights of 2 specific groups of people, but, and this is even after talking to members of targeted groups, the fear they feel and the fear of those targeted by hitler is not the same.

no, i'm not jewish, but i have been a student of the holocaust for 19 of my almost 31 years.

and yes, my friends on the left who do this comparison object to my disagreement with the comparison.

Jonah Goldberg posted some time ago a very interesting article which said that essentially this Bush = Hitler meme besides everything else is holocaust denial. He's right, and the fact that Bush = Hitler comes from the very same people who when not making facile and idiotic comparisons of republicans to Hitler is out there trying to make Israel illegitimate it's no surprise.

O. Deus: Minor correction: German and English are not Italic (Latin-descended) languages, but Germanic.

Heck, this is nothing new. I've been hearing Democrats compare Republicans to Nazis for years now...this ad is just the natural outgrowth of their vitriolic tactics.

Back during the "Contract with America" program (1994-95) I remember one of our own Georgia Democrat Congressmen, John Lewis, standing up in the well of the House and calling Newt Gingrich and the other Republicans "Nazis" for wanting to reduce the rate of increased spending for certain federal welfare programs. Not a cut, mind you, but a mere reduction in the annual rate of increase. Their rhetoric hasn't changed all that much over the years.

Middle Eastern anti-Semitism is (if anything) MORE virulent than German anti-Semitism was.

Perhaps this is meant as a preemptive strike on the war on terror - an attempt to co-opt the imagery that would be the most obvious choice for explaining the Middle East to Americans.

I wonder if there's Saudi money involved (or just George Sorros).

By the way Michele, why did you call it the penultimate Bush=Hitler idiocy?

What's the Ultimate B=H idiocy?

Josh, because penultimate means next to last, I was going on the assumption that the next Bush Hitler thing would be the last that anyone would pay attention to.

Lo and Behold, today the meme jumped the shark, as I wrote.

Got it. It's the
"What is this great task for which I, Deep Thought, the second greatest computer in the Universe of Time and Space have been called into existence? ... I speak of none but the computer that is to come after me!"

thing. (If you never read or heard the Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy then I'm looking pretty stupid about now.)

on the other hand there's gumpW

Dean:
1) Neither served in Vietnam.
2) Supporters of both described as "angry"
3) Both "charismatic" speakers

gumpy w. bush:
1) didn't have to go. poppy got him a cushy draft evasion position in the elite texass air guard from which the pussy went awol. (i'm a vietnam vet so i'm allowed to call a coward a pussy)
2) bunnypants ain't really angry, he's cruel...Bush made fun of Karla Faye Tucker while discussing her case for Talk magazine with reporter Tucker Carlson. During the interview, George W. mocks Carla Faye's plea to save her life as he feigns desperation and whimpers, "Please don't kill me".
3) charismatic? "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principals, come join this campaign."
HiltonHead, S.C., Feb 16, 2000...hahahahahahaha

Clark:
1) Both served in the military
2) Both were wounded in action
3) Both attacked the Balkans

bush the poser:
1) didn't have required courage
2) uh, does that pretzel thing count?
3) with greasy sleeeezy bunnypants you have to follow the oil.

Kucinich:
1) Both are vegetarians
2) ???
3) Profit

benedict bush:
1) flesh eater, human flesh...
2) ??? is just a state of (gumpy's) mind.
3) oh yes. un-godly, un-holy, un-american profit above all.

Sharpton:
Only one similarity, but gets extra points since that similarity is inciting violence against Jews.

bush the coward:
did sharpton's family do business with nazi germany? prescott (gumpy's grampy) did. even after we were at war with them. after american gi's were dying at hitler's hands. similar to the bush crime family bin laden family ties.

you guys are blind pavlovian sheep. absolute conformists who wont allow your worship of your master to be tainted by the truth. don't look left, don't look right, shut up and don't ask any questions. don't think (let the junkie rush do your thinking for you) and maybe, just maybe, you'll get to go to heaven with tom delay when it's all over.

An ad is supposed to be provocative. Of course, nobody actually BELIEVES Bush is a contemporary Hitler. The point of the ad isn't to equate them. It's to draw parallels between two social and historical contexts: Both involving leaders with no concern, or rather, full-on contempt for the world outside their national borders, an obsession and blind allegiance to wealth and power and a racist ideology. That's all.

To set the record straight on this one, the ad in question was not "run by MoveOn," as the original poster claims. It was part of a contest of political ads to which any member of the public could contribute. MoveOn members were then invited to rate the ads (of which there were over 1,000 submissions) based on their merits, and the ads receiving the highest rating would then be selected to air on national television. To their credit, members of MoveOn gave the ad in question a very low score, preferring ads raising more legitimate concerns about President Bush and his administration.

I agree with the prevailing opinion here that the Hitler=Bush ad was a complete distortion of the facts. Some leftists are irresponsible and full of hatred. But their irresponsibility should not cloud our better judgement. To me, the facts are more important than straw-man tactics empolyed by either side of this bogus "debate."

To the liberals: Aspersions against Bush will not avail you in your cause (whatever it is).

To my fellow conservatives: Attacks against "leftists" and distortion of the facts will only serve to enrage people.

Let the facts speak for themselves.

if u goddam rednecks are too stupid to see the light and realize what this tyranical assclown is doing and how pathetic his mind is then you deserve to be shot in the street with the rest of the heathens

here is a link that explains EXACTLY how bush is on the same path as hitler was. we are only beginning to walk the road to totalitarianism. just read it:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

and you can read this too:

http://www.rense.com/general33/dumb.htm

Does anyboby how I can download the Bush=hitler movie?

@ I AM AWAKE

you have got the point! it is not bush=hitler, but they have similarys in leading their country into fascism. My englisch is not goog enough to explain why, but I hope for the wold peace, that there are enough people in the usa, who recognize the faults, how they are leaded by the government.

And by the way.... the united states of amerecia need a REAL democracy, not this fake-shit they have now!!

Jau! Another german! I think he is right when dreams of a real democracy for the united states. You are on my my back to imperialism and capitalism rules instead of democracy.
The comparison between Bush and Hitler is not so war as it seams. Hitler has let germany into WWII by increasing patroitism ... and censorship. Bush is the same. Try the get some more info and news from around the world.
www.euronews.net - it's an european tv-station and it is quite good ... and it's independent to any country!!!

hitler and bush both:

-invaded other countries in aggressive manners without good reason (WMD anyone?)
-lied to the public about what their real agenda was (you heard Bush's story change many times)
-ignored public interest/welfare in order to squander the citizen's money on war that would produce no benefits for anyone but himself and his wealthy cronies
-started programs to spy on the public by collecting as much information as possible (ever hear of the patriot act, total information awareness, etc)
-used the media to promote their agenda and brainwash the public into letting it happen (no the media is NOT liberal)
-had no regard for the international community
-oppressed homosexuals and minorities
-detained innocent people indefinitely without giving them a fair trial

the list goes on people. sure he hasn't killed millions (directly), but you think he would if today's society had a 1940's mindset? there are absolutely many parallels between the two men and their regimes.

let the flaming begin

ooh great links from i am awake. I just learned a little more about the subject. maybe everyone here should take a peek...

yeah, i cant find the movie. i want to watch it. does anyone have a link?

Great links by I AM AWAKE. Here's another one that you might enjoy.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/reich.html

Before Hitler, Germany was a world center of art, film, and music. Many people, despite World War I, admired German culture and civilization. After Hitler, Germany was known for little more than Nazism.

Before Bush, the US was seen as a world center of art, film, and music. Even though the US's policies were often hated, most people around the world still admired the US. After Bush, the US is hated worldwide for what Bush has made it.

holy sh%t,

when will you see that violence and imperialism are characteristic for nearly any western government. It started way before hitler and will still be that way in 100 years if noone has the balls to change it. Hitler and Bush are just examples of presidents/dictators who did it extremly wrong but Clinton and Blair and Reagen and Adenauer and and and aren't any better...
Fight Nationalism, Fight Nacism, Fight Capitalism, Fight for Justice, Fight for the People, Fight for Freedom!
Open your eyes and see the lies!
Burn down the White House! F%ck the CIA, FBI and NSA! F%ck the NRA!
Hope they die a painful death soon,

lol, now you're pretty pissed, ej?

search on kazaa for moveon2.mov :) im downloading now :)

Have any of you ever heard your outspoken "mouthpiece" Rush Limbaugh refer to certain women as Feminazis? Why were you not up in arms then?