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So, how did you celebrate Veteran's Day/Remembrance Day yesterday? Did you thank a vet? Go to a memorial service? Watch a parade? Wear a poppy? Write a beautiful post about veterans?

Here's what some other people did:

Vandals filled nearly 200 sidewalk flag holders with concrete as local Boy Scouts prepared to line Sebastopol's downtown with American flags in observance of Veteran's Day, authorities said Monday. Police said they had no suspects in the vandalism, but speculated it was an act of civil disobedience carried out done to protest U.S. military involvement in Iraq.

Vandals spray-painted anti-war slogans on the National War Memorial on Tuesday, just hours before Remembrance Day ceremonies were to begin.

At today's service at the Shrine of Remembrance, a bunch of "anti-war protestors" interrupted the service just before the minute of silence with their by now wearisomely familiar shrieks and slogans. According to the afternoon free newspaper here in Melbourne, MX, a war veteran was knocked to the ground in a scuffle with the protestors, two of whom were arrested.

I hope when these idiots were done making a mess out of a day of respect for veterans, they said a silent thank you to those vets who made it possible for them to live in places where they wouldn't be executed for such acts.

[some links via Damian Penny]

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Sole vaguely political statement I will ever make: While I'm generally anti-war, I would never confuse the mourning and rememberance of the lost with my objections to current military actions.
You'd think that people who are against the war would feel even more sorrow for the loss of those whom by their beliefs should not have been sacrificed - at least, that's me on the subject.

I condone violence for dealing with these people.

This puts the lie once and for all to their claims that they "just want our troops home" and they care deeply for the sacrifices our military personnel are making. Leftists despise our military (But not those of our enemies, natch.), but will use it as a propaganda tool any way they can. As spoken by Lisa Simpson--Patriotism: the last refuge of the scoundrel.

Fffffffggggggggghhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.

These people disgust me.
shakes head

I hope ... they said a silent thank you to those vets who made it possible for them to live in places where they wouldn't be executed for such acts.

This is a favorite line of righties. I dunno, I never understood the idea that the way to honor the people who died to secure our rights is by not exercising those rights.

"People gave their lives so you could protest, so stop protesting!"

Explain that to me, please.

The right to vandalize property? I missed that article of the Constitution.
The right to assemble does not mean the right to riot, break windows or spraypaint anything in sight.

Thlayli either knows better, or not.
Thlayli either thinks vandalism and violence are "protesting" or does not.
Thlayli is either lying by trying to conflate the two when she/he knows better, or if not lying, is stone ignorant.
If Thlayli can't tell the difference, then he/she is typical of many of the left.
Of course, any mild verbal reproach directed at them is going to be called "hate", and "violence" and "repression".
Forget Thlayli. Not worth the trouble.

Minorities are getting killed at a much higher rate than their population in this oil seize. We demand that more whites get put out there so their numbers catch up and we get equal results.

Because of this this is a racist, fascist, Nazi colonization.

Filling flag holders with concrete is civil disobedience? I don't think so. Civil disobedience requires putting your a** on the line, not sneaking around in the night like cowards. See Montgomery, Alabama.

Thlayli, the fact that you CAN commit these types of actions without fear of reprisal is the simplest proof that you and yours are WRONG.

Truly oppressive societies punish dissent. They suppress it. They kill to stop it. Similar acts in countries that possess actual opressive governments have resulted in death.

Imagine what would happen if a group of protesters tried to shout down Kim Jong Il.

The people being remembered died to keep tyrants from opressing you. To allow you to feel safe in denigrating all that aids and encourages your right to dissent. They died so that you would have the right to voice support for those who would take away everyone's voice save their own.

Never believe for a minute that those who rebut your fool opinions are 'crushing' your dissent--they are merely executing THEIR right to dissent....from YOUR opinion.

"Imagine what would happen if a group of protesters tried to shout down Kim Jong Il."

Ten minutes later, they would be dead. Fifteen minutes after that, their families would be dead.

Two days later, they and their families would never have existed at all.

Such is the joy of life in NK. All love the Deal Leader and dote upon his slightest whim. To do otherwise is death.

These are cowardly, criminal acts that deserve the scorn and ridicule of everyone - not merely those on the right. It's just one more sign in a long run of signs that indicate the extremes (on both sides) are taking over the political landscape in this country.

Is it me, or are there more trolls on this site as of late?

Richard Aubrey: Thlayli wasn't really talking about the specific events Michele cited. Thlayli agrees that vandalism is a bad thing. Thlayli was commenting on Michele's closing remark, and how it seemed contradictory to him.

(Thlayli will stop with the third-person now.)

Jack: if I may be blunt ... what the hell are you talking about? Where did I "denigrate" anything?

Belize042: wake up and smell the latte. It's not 1970 anymore; nobody is going around shouting "BABYKILLER!" And the line which predates "The Simpsons" by a few centuries is meant for people like you, not me.

I, too, wish the protestors hadn't behaved like they did. I guess in Thlayli's world that means I want them rounded up and sent to the gulag.

"You'd think that people who are against the war would feel even more sorrow for the loss of those whom by their beliefs should not have been sacrificed - at least, that's me on the subject."

Most people do Bill. Most people on the anti-war side are our brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers. Most people who supported the war are our brothers, sisters, fathers and mothers.

It's just that the "Morans" and "We support our soldiers when they shoot their officers" crowds that get the most attention.

Extremism is the path followed by the stupid and the shallow.

Excuse me Thlayli, but the term still is being used. When coming home from the air base, I have been harrassed by left-wingers. Maybe this doesn't happen in your neck of the woods but it still happens here in the People's Republic of Norman. I have been called nazi, warmonger and baby killer, usually by people with facial piercings, and I look them in the eye and say, "your welcome". Because that is what soldiers do.

Thlayli,

No latte for me, I just need a few minutes of watching the pro-appeasement crowd in action. If you haven't seen them, be advised that "bring our troops home" signs are as prevalent--and as insincere--as they were in 1970. They're probably being used to screen vandals from view, actually.

But thanks for the information about the Simpsons line, since I would never have known that. At least I can be sure Homer was the first to say "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Doh!

Much as we were to understand that your voiced support for the 'dissent' shown by those protesting Veteran's day remembrances did not extend to the reported vandalism, it was to be understood that I had used the inclusive 'you' as in 'all of you'--even though that too, was unstated.

However, since my point was that protesting these event amounts to denigrating the sacrifice these men and women made so that you--specifically you, if you are, in fact, American, inclusive you otherwise--could speak freely, then your support of those actions is, ipso facto, denigrating them in its own right.

I spent Veterans Day at a Funeral service for my grandfather. He was awarded the Silver Star, the Bronze Star, and the Purple Heart with an oak leaf cluster for his service to our country in World War II in the South Pacific. It is thanks to men and women like him that those people have the freedom to be criminals in the name of "freedom of speech" and "Dissent". No one is asking them to not have an opinion or to not be able to express that opinion, but I do expect a certain knowledge of what types of sacrifice were required in order to sustain their freedom and to respect those sacrifices. There is a time and place for everything. Veteran's day is not a time for vandalism in the name of protest.