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The comments on this post (What Makes A Man A Man) have been closed. Some of you people appear to be complete idiots who haven't left the third-grade sandbox yet. It would be amusing if it weren't so sad and pathetic.

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The debate continues apace over at Mike's. Needless to say the Kim and Co have resorted to name calling and rediculous assertions to miss our/my points. The knuckle dragging "manly" brigade has gotten so nasty that Michele had to shut... [Read More]

» To be a man row update from Dodgeblogium
The debate continues apace over at Mike's. Needless to say the Kim and Co have resorted to name calling and rediculous assertions to miss our/my points. The knuckle dragging "manly" brigade has gotten so nasty that Michele had to shut... [Read More]

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That's a shame....I found the thread to be very informative and interesting. Being on the other side of the glass affords the anonymity for some to indulge themselves in ways they wouldn't in real time - at least I hope so.

I read and read and read. Wow!

Actually, reading back through it - considering the polarizing topic - I think people were more of less restrained in their comments. At least after the first few hours of namecalling.

I understand where are coming from but I usually find situations like this useful in that it gives you the chance of letting the third graders identify who they are.

I think some of the readers missed the point of the statement. What Kim (IMHO) was talking about is the disparity between how young men are expected to act, versus how they really act. Let's take the binge drinking, for example. Campus 'culture' dictates that ALL drinking is bad. Therefore, once you cross the line the temptation is to go all the way, especially when you're young, and the rules at hand are so idiotically restrictive you can't begin to respect them. Kind of a point of no return. Liberal Society these days has no sense of proportion; the media freaked out over the alleged Shwarzenegger gropings like they were actual rapes; they do this over far too many things. The idea of appropriate response has atrophied in American society. So, I think that what Kim was really trying to say was that these kids are not recieving the guidance they need. They're told that EVERYTHING past a certain point is just BAD BAD BAD. Having a beer in your Dorm room is recieving the same response as having a Drinking Binge. So these young kids, they start by doing something minorly 'wrong.' Oh, it's BAD, but no one really cares. Things escalate, they start to push the limit, 'hey, this isn't bad, no one even cares!' They crossed the line so far back, that the rules no longer mean anything, they don't get any respect. And then some of these dumb young men keep pushing. and pushing. Because the line that they should not cross under ANY circumstances has never been laid down in front of them, or it's been laid down in such a way that it simply doesn't merit their respect.

Ugh. I wish I could explain that more elegantly or succinctly. What I'm trying to say is that PC society has discredited our sense of proportion, our sense of right and wrong. I believe, as I am very sure Kim does, that there are lines you DO NOT CROSS. His and my assertation is that PC society has tried to take that line of departure, and move it up to cover all manner of minor infractions, to the point that it is no longer a border between right and wrong, because so many people cross it on a regular basis.

I hope this makes sense.

Actually, campus culture has not had anything resembling an "all drinking is bad" attitude for quite some time. Even the staid little state university in my part of Florida has a bar on campus.

For a somewhat different point of view.