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we are doomed: part 2

What the hell?

A 9-year-old boy was arrested at gunpoint and handcuffed Saturday because he was waving a toy gun over his head while seated on a bench outside a store, according to a Lorain police report.

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His mother, Tamyka Saunders of Sheffield Lake, said her son, Thomas Clark Jr., told Lorain police when they approached him outside a Broadway business that the gun was a toy. An officer aimed his weapon at the boy's head, ordered him to the ground, handcuffed him and arrested him for juvenile delinquency by reason of inducing panic, according to the police report.

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Saunders said police were not even going to come inside the cosmetology institute to tell her they were arresting her son. She said she learned from another woman her son was being arrested.

Yes, it could have been a real gun. The kid was nine. NINE. He wasn't pointing the TOY gun at anyone. After they realized it was a toy, was it really necessary to cuff him and arrest him? And then not even telling the mother of the child?

I hate zero tolerance. Hate it. It is going to be the downfall of our future generations.

Everybody sing the Doom Song with me.

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Remember my rant a few months ago about police? Perfect example. We had an officer here in the Syracuse area recently KILL a couple's dog because it nipped at him twice - in their yard. He was coming to report on some appliances they had reported stolen. Not a killer dog by any stretch, either, not a pit bull, not a doberman. This was a black lab, family dog. Shot, not once, but twice, becaues it nipped at a police officer.

Both of these seem like classic examples of stupid people doing idiotic things, them blaming it on someone else. In this case, the kids.

Common sense is not so common. None of these people seem to have any.

The officer should probably be suspended, for being an overreactive moronic control freak. Maybe we should all be praising his self restraint for not just up and shooting the kid for not 'folowing instructions' or 'moving the toy gun in a threatening manner' or some such made up crap.

The educators - they have dealt with kids before, right? Reaching such a position does involve actually interacting with children somewhat instead of just reading volume after volume of 'this should be ok be cause we discussed it and decided in academia' bullshit, does it not?

Stupid, stupid people. Gotta love, em....(/sarcasm)

Saunders, 28, was also charged with obstruction of justice and resisting arrest when she pleaded with police not to arrest her son and to give him a warning, according to a police report. ...She is free on $750 bond...

If someone had pointed a gun at my 9yo's head, I wouldn't have been eligible for bail. That's for damn sure.

Cleveland rocks.

this confirms what i've always believed. there's a special place in hell for anyone who would shoot a lab.

ohmigosh. speaking of DOOM... i recently acquired the 5 'lost episodes' of invader zim that were supposedly never aired. since i no longer get nicktoons or digital cable, i don't really know. but i'm going to rip them from dvd to mpeg if youre interested.

Agreed. I saw it this morning and it really honked me off...http://www.analogmouse.com/blog/archives/000264.html

I don't care whether or not the police officer thought is was a real gun

A police officer does not point a gun at at nine y/o!

There are plenty of instances where a curious youngster may FIND a handgun ... a p/o should be trained to gently talk to the obvious child and get their cooperation. This idiot has scarred this boy for life, and should never be surprised if the kid grows up to never trust a police officer again.

Suspend the officer's ass and don't let him back until he gets sufficient training on how to act around children!

Remember my rant a few months ago about police? Perfect example. We had an officer here in the Syracuse area recently KILL a couple's dog because it nipped at him twice - in their yard. He was coming to report on some appliances they had reported stolen. Not a killer dog by any stretch, either, not a pit bull, not a doberman. This was a black lab, family dog. Shot, not once, but twice, becaues it nipped at a police officer.

Oh, you mean on officer dealth with a loose and obviously dangerous animal that had tried to bite him twice? (Yes, I object to the term "nipped" - with a large animal with teeth, nipped makes it sound cute and playful) The deal is a large dog attempted to harm the officer, and he appropriately dealt with a loose animal. Perhaps the family involved should not have let their animal off of the leash.

Yeah, I'm not feelin' pain for the dog. I've seen too many accounts of lethal and disfiguring dog attacks; if a dog bit me not once, but twice, and I was armed, I'd shoot it too.

Zero-tolerance laws are signs of weak and fearful minds. Heard about high-school girls getting suspended for taking Midol? The boy who was expelled for giving his french teacher a bottle of wine as a gift, with his parents' permission? These are just signs that people working in public school systems have collectively lost their minds.

Did you ever see the movie "Doom Generation"? Your title just reminded me

>These are just signs that people working in public school systems have collectively lost their minds.

You sounds surprised?
Why do you think there are so many people home schooling?
It is not because they want to be teachers.
It is because they don't think they can trust the current teachers and administrators.

Where was Michael Moore during all this?

Not to add to the derailing, but... I wouldn't consider it appropriate to keep a dog constantly leashed... to me, that seems mean to the dog and just asking for him to become too rambunctious inside. He was in their yard, fer chrissakes.

And certainly there have been cases of "animal maulings" involving dogs, but there have probably been a hundred times as many cases of dogs biting people, causing minor pain. I mean, a Labrador? Those are some of the nicest dogs I've ever seen and I suspect the dog was provoked.

"No Tolerance" policies are the refuge of choice for cowards and imbeciles around the world.

If a police officer can't understand the difference between a bank robber wielding a toy gun in the commission of his crime and a 9 y.o. kid holding one while sitting on a bench outside a store, he or she has no business carrying a loaded weapon.

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Doomy doomy (doomy doomy)...

I'm done

Another from the radio this morning: A kid in a New Jersey (I think) school district was suspended for five days for drawing a picture of a marine shooting an Islamofascist terrorist. The boy's father and uncle are marines.

MikeR said it best: the refuge of cowards and imbeciles.

Aw shit! You covered the NJ thing a couple posts down. This is what I get for reading top to bottom.

But cowards and imbeciles still stands.

I think that we really need to re-examine our basis for inciting public fear. That should not be an arrestable offense unless malice is determined to be involved. I mean, a person could be acting perfectly legally, as was this child, and find themselves in the center of a legal firestorm. If I go sketching down by the river, and somebody decides my activities are suspicious since I happen to be sketching near a power plant, should I be arrested for inciting fear? Should the government be held accountable for my own acid-reflux attacks brought on by the stress of their constant fluctuation of orange and yellow terrorist alert levels???

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I can't believe that they arrested a nine year old. That's crazy.