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lies, damn lies and hilary clinton

I've got a whole cartful of crap on my mind today.

Let's start with Hilary (via Cold Fury).

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton had her staff fabricate records of meetings and phone calls to families of victims of the Sept. 11 attacks to burnish her image as New York's leading politician on 9/11 issues, the author of a new book on how U.S. officials dealt with the aftermath of the attacks charged Sunday.

"I think [Sen. Clinton] has begun every statement she's ever made in her life about the families of the victims by saying she's met innumerable hours with the families of the victims," Steven Brill, author of the new book "After: How America Confronted the September 12 Era," told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

Before the naysayers begin with "Newsmax.com is a biased source," I'll refute your refutation of this story.

I know for a fact that family members of 9/11 victims have been spurned by Hilary Clinton. I know for a fact that there were very few 9/11 funerals or memorials she appeared at if cameras weren't present.

No, Hilary did not owe anything to the victims or their families. She didn't have to see or have to be there for them.

But it sure speaks volumes about her that she would pretend she gave a shit about anything but herself, to even go so far as to fabricate a web of lies to make it appear as if she cared.

According to the story, most of the lies were told to Brill in an egotistical effort by Hilary to make sure she got more play in Brill's book than Sen. Schumer.

Personally, I think both of them - Schumer and Clinton - are nothing more than media whores and egomaniacs whose political lives are spent in search of the ultimate sound bite. But, despite the static coming out of his mouth most of the time, at least when Schumer says he was there for the families of 9/11 victims he's not telling lies.

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As opposed to Bush, who sees 9.11 as the #1 fundraiser for his party.

What politician is not a "media whore or an egomaniac"?

I reside in believing the answer is "none".

Once again, Oliver proves his secret desire to be Michael Moore.

I'm sorry, but how does moving the Rep Natl Convention to Sep 3rd have to do with Hillary Clinton lying about all the time she supposedly sent with familes of the victims of 9/11.

Apples and oranges dude.

In all honesty, Bush was the essence of America on 9/11. For him not to use 9/11 as a platform would be an act of monumental stupidity. It redefined him and his presidency. When Bush was first informed of the attacks in that classroom, we saw the face of America, the look of shock, unbelief, which immediately gave way to anger, a restrained rage at what was done to us. And later on, we saw grief and mourning in his visit to NY, and finally, resolve, a new resolve to ensure that those who attacked us would KNOW our righteous fury. Without the need for staged photo-ops, prepared speeches and fake emotions, Bush was the embodiment of America. And we should never forget.

Just as a side note, and this is one of those things I hate to say, but it is an experience that most people will never have, so I must share.

I have a coworker who, if you mention the word "Bush", be careful not to say it in front of him. He will spit. I call him the Bush Llama.

BL and I were talking yesterday about some military things. I'm a former Marine and he's a Navy Officer. We were talking about the true heroes of the war and how, sometimes out of nowhere, the most annoying prick in your platoon can suddenly rise to the situation and be something no one ever expected.

He then got this look on his face like he was about to throw up the animal crackers he was eating and said (and I quote loosely)
"Like Bush. I didn't vote for the fucker but, well....he did rise up to the challenge."

Then he went on a tirade about the economy and something about the Rangers sucking. But he admitted to something he saw as a fact and didn't let his personal feelings get in the way. And he did it on his own, without my comments.

I respect him a lot for that (amongst other things).

Interesting, Rob. Nice to hear that.

Most people have too much emotional or intellectual capital invested in their view to give the other side any credit.

Sorry, Robb.

I don't want to short anyone a 'b'.

I am a Clinton hater. There. I admitted it. Every time I think I hate those two to the absolute core of my being, one of them does something else that just deepens it. It is sad. I should probably try therapy. Isn't recognizing your problem the first step?

I used to hate Clinton something fierce. The thing is, I've had a strange reaction since 9/11. I feel bad for hating him for the wrong reasons. Sure, the guy was a compulsive liar, classless, narcissistic, and corrupt. But the REAL REASON to hate him is for his cowardice. The bastard had eight friggin years to do something about terrorism and he couldn't muster up the courage to do it. Everything else kinda falls by the wayside in light of 9/11. The hummers, the numerous petty scandals, the thieving. If the bastard had any kinda balls, it would all be small potatoes. But he didn't, and hasn't helped his cause by intermittently sniping at Bush's policies on the matter since. Denial must be a wonderful state.

Would Oliver be theblogger at that "Like Crayons for the Stupid" site?

It's good to see wit ain't dead.

I am a Clinton hater as well. And now that a candidate that I can stand by is in the Oval Office, I now realize the folly of my hatred.

I didn't like his policies or the way he pulled a Matrix "Hey Neo. Dodge the Bullet!" act every time something came around. But I did realize that I started to hate everything he did, regardless. This is dangerous and I only see it now because the attacks are coming at Bush.

Bush could personally donate $50M to greenpeace and the libs would complain that he didn't spend it on bisexual left handed orphans from Reno, NV.

But now that I've learned to not have such a strong knee-jerk reaction, I feel I can read into the Clintons better without auto-hating them. I read what they say, study what they mean, and THEN form my opinion.

Oddly enough, the opinion hasn't changed a bit. I still can't stand either one of them.

Well said, JB. Moral and financial corruption are bad, but selling missile technology to the Chinese, giving nuclear technology to N. Korea, and burying his head in the sand in denial of terrorism are his real legacy.

I never did like Hilarity Klinton.During the dark ages of the Clinton fiasco,92-00 I believe she had WAY more to do with the policies enacted during those times.The only thing that kept this country from becomming a genuine socialist society,was that we got a clear majority of republicans in the House.National healthcare under Hillbilly Hillary?You think your taxes are high now,just thank God we dodged THAT bullet.BC was too busy partying to take care of buisness so I think he prefered to let her run amok.He can be faulted with being stupid and lazy,but his wife?That bitch is evil.

Maybe YOU "know for a fact" that Hilary is lying, but you haven't offered any evidence of it. Your mere assertion isn't proof for skeptics. How exactly do you "know for a fact" that the charge is true?

(BTW & FWIW, I never liked the Clintons and didn't vote for them.)

Well, I am not a Clinton hater - in fact, I think most Clinton-haters need therapy (I disagree with just about everything Dubya does, but I don't HATE the guy...what's the point?) but I'm not one to call B.S. on Stephen Brill. He's not Barbara Olsen, Ann Coulter, or David Brock - some partisan freak show who's going to make stuff up to sell some copy. If he says he's got the goods, he's more than likely got the goods.

As far as Bush and the 9-11 gambit, I think it's absolutely distasteful (but I would, wouldn't I?) As Julian of Julian's Jabberings pointed out, this waving-the-bloody-shirt campaign parade is coming from the "party that was horrified that anyone dare make a political statement at Paul Wellstone's funeral." Ridicky-goddamn-diculous.

In response to the "Clinton-haters in need of therapy"....aren't you offened that you beloved Slick Willy lied to you? He put his paw on the Bible and swore to tell the truth and lied. Thus, going against his oath's as a lawyer and as our President. Maybe you need the therapy.

Maybe a few of the following documented tidbits might convey more than simple assertion. Hillary was the force behind the hideous Travel Office scandal, to which she blatantly lied to deceive prosecutors; she denied knowing anything in the Rodham brothers (remember Hugh the Slob?) scandal with Carlos Vignali, a major cocaine dealer; she delayed for two years in providing subpoenaed Rose Law Firm files; she transferred over 900 raw FBI files into a database for Democratic National Committee computers for future blackmail purposes; hell, she pilfered furniture, china and silver from the White House and Air Force One to Arkansas ... after being caught she did return the White House items.

She told columnist Liz Smith she would "never run for office", told the world just before Bill was impeached that she didn't know about his affair with Monica; she bullied Bill for the West Wing office space, usually reserved for the vice president; both her and Bill's motis operandi has been slease, adultery, lies, cheating, stonewalling, obstruction of justice, greed and whatever would advance their profit and pleasure.

She will continue to find support from those where self-gratifying idiology matters more than character and integrity. She has far surpassed her husband and teacher in inbred ruthless, rigorous and relentless ambition.

Bill Clinton did attempt to stop terrorism, shortly after his announcement of his affair with monica lewinsky (a week or so later) he bombed a training camp CIA intelligence told him Bin-Laden was at. Missing Bin-Laden by merely a few hours. All the republican spewed out nonsense about how he was trying to divert attention from the Lewinsky scandal. He knew then the threat Bin-Laden posed and no one would listen to him. Bush (yak) recieved word that a terrorist plot against the US was planned and did nothing. Now Americans are all gung ho about Bush and his National Security plans... Where were these plans when they mattered? He is probably glad 9-11 happend because it boosted his rating and face it if it werent for 9-11 he would not win the next election.

As for Hiliary Clinton, she is a strong women that women everywhere should look up to. I hope she runs for president in 2008 and I hope she wins big!

Dont you God Dam Americans realise their not human,and certainly not working in anyones intrest but thier own.Stop trusting them you lazzy crazzy baffoons.Your gona get us all killed or worse.

Both Clintons are evil. Read the "Secret Life of Bill Clinton" by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard. He is an English journalist and didn't have to worry about retaliation from the White House or American media. There are facts in there about the Branch Davidians where the CS gas was pumped in on the children to make the parents give up, the Oklahoma City Bombing where none of the ATF agents went in that day, when Clinton freed terrorists because they were a majority group in Hilary's state where she was running, Vince Fosters "supposed suicide" and many other things. Clinton tore up the Justice Dept replacing them with his own people. Both of them are morally corrupt and she should never be elected to anything.

Both Clintons are evil. Read the "Secret Life of Bill Clinton" by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard. He is an English journalist and didn't have to worry about retaliation from the White House or American media. There are facts in there about the Branch Davidians where the CS gas was pumped in on the children to make the parents give up, the Oklahoma City Bombing where none of the ATF agents went in that day, when Clinton freed terrorists because they were a majority group in Hilary's state where she was running, Vince Fosters "supposed suicide" and many other things. Clinton tore up the Justice Dept replacing them with his own people. Both of them are morally corrupt and she should never be elected to anything.

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