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shouldn't i feel cheated right now?

Tim Blair speaks for me:

I SHOULDN'T be so happy. After all, I'm a right-wing deathbeast, and the end (or near end) of a war should upset me, because we conservatives lust for war all the time. Except when we have to fight it ourselves, of course. Being chickenhawks and all.

And the toppling of a fascist dictator should have me all weepy and nostalgic for Hitler. Because I'm a fascist, according to much of the mail I receive.

Those Iraqis dancing in the streets? That should really piss me off, because I want to oppress them and steal their oil. Why are they even able to dance? I was promised 500,000 murders, yet thus far only 1,000 or so innocents have died.

So why am I so damn happy? I really can't explain.

I'd go and ask some oppression-hating anti-fascist peace activists about it, but for some reason they're all incredibly depressed.

He's got a major point there.

For all of you who wrote me hate mail, left nasty comments or derided my "warmongering" on your own blog, read the above and answer the questions.

Why was I crying with joy today?
Why do I feel like dancing?
Why am I so damn happy watching the people of Iraq celebrate?

Perhaps I am not so bloodythirsty as many of you think. Maybe I am not the callous, evil bastard you portray me to be because I am pro-war. Perhaps, despite your best twist of words, all my pro-war posturing really did mean that I wanted the liberation of Iraq, that the best interest of the Iraqi people were in my heart.

And maybe all your silence and hand wringing an dropping rain on the parade of liberated happiness means that you are what you were accusing us of.

The phrase self-centered comes to mind.


Um...Well, first of all, our own leaders are telling us the war is far from older. Second, there is massive looting and chaos in the cities we already "control." Third, there are still very real crises in the hospitals and in the streets with food and water and medical supply shortages.

And, oh yeah, there's that thing where innocent civilians are still being killed, and still dying in overflowing hospitals. My question for you is if the war is over, why do our troops keep shooting people?

I really hope the Iraqi people are free from the rule of Hussein, but judging from history, things look pretty grim in the immediate future.

But you can continue to celebrate while I continue to advocate for peaceful solutions to human rights crises everywhere. I'm sure it'll be easy enough for you to forget those in need now that there's been another notch etched in the gunbelts of American troops.

You may not be bloodthirsty, Michele, but I believe you are EXTREMELY short-sighted. I'm looking forward to seeing you prove me wrong. I would love it if you continue to advocate for the human rights of oppressed people the world over.

a) I never said the war is over
b) Our soldiers are still shooting because there is still opposition out there shooting at THEM
c) But you can continue to celebrate while I continue to advocate for peaceful solutions to human rights crises everywhere. I'm sure it'll be easy enough for you to forget those in need now that there's been another notch etched in the gunbelts of American troops.

Might judgemtal of you, but I'll let that slide.

I celebrate today. I celebrate the moment that the Iraqis were able to dance freely in the streets. I am not an idiot. I know the war is still on, I know there is a lot of work to do, I know that so much aid is needed in Iraq.

You don't know anything about me. I've been advocating for human rights for most of my life. There is more to me than what I do and say on the internet.

But thanks for trying to piss on my short but sweet parade.

I'm as giddy as a school-girl about this news. Excuse me and my Pollyanna moment, but it was never about war for me. War was necessary to get to this place in history and now that we're on the cusp of resolution, I'm so jazzed for the Iraqi people that I feel like I've had way too much vodka to drink.

If that makes me a warmonger or the "bad guy" in the eyes of others, so be it. I really don't give a fiddler's fuck. :-D

And, like I said, I hope you CONTINUE to do so.

I find it ironice that you feel upset about being mischaracterized and generalized about by my comments, considering how much mischaracterization and generalization happens all over the freaking place in your words here and in the words of others.

Talk about self-centered!

Um, that would be ironic not ironicE.

Drublood - Michele has a right to say as she pleases on HER BLOG. Go to YOUR blog, little honey, and do what you will. I understand your disapointment that all the liberal bullsh*t didn't come to pass. Go bye-bye and wee-wee in your own panties. Maybe if you just BELIEVE, all your dreams will come true, us 'warmongers' will start killing children, the Iraquis will hate us, lots more people will die, oil prices will go up and up and up. Close your eyes, little honey - it's napy time!

I just love when people who are proven wrong try to weasel out of their particular predicament.

But you can continue to celebrate while I continue to advocate for peaceful solutions to human rights crises everywhere.

drublood, what peaceful alternative would you / have you suggested for the current crisis?

i'm just happy that things seem to be winding down...and if i was in the wrong i am happy to admit it. one suggestion though...can we switch the song of the moment from 'tie a yellow ribbon' to martha and the vandellas 'dancin in the streets'? only then can i rest my weary head and turn off the coverage...that's all i ask.

Oh yeah... we should never have invaded Iraq and overthrown Hussein, because of the looting.


I second Trace's comments. It's intoxicating to be riding such an unprecedented wave of history. It's also euphoric, after months of blogging about "why" I supported war, to be able to say "I told you fucking so!" to all the lurkers dropping ignorant e-mails and comments.

It's the same old argument. Everything isn't perfect so there can be no joy.

If we can't feel joy even when there's a good reason, what the hell are we fighting for?

Nobody ever said that with a snap of the fingers all of the evil that was done in Saddam's name will be undone. It will take work, and patience, and dedication.

Today was the beginning of the end for all those wrongs. There will be steps backward, but with work and hope we (yes, the Iraqi and the Americans) can make all of our lives better.

It's the best that we humans can do. We achieve greatness because we dare. Sometimes we fail and disappoint ourselves, falling short of our own ideals, but if we stop trying then we will fail.

so why can't we celebrate this beginning drublood? Why do we have to examine each imperfection until it overwhelms the beauty?

I am so amazingly tired of being told how evil and wrong I am. How I'm mindless and unthinking despite all the hours I've spent studying and re-hashing the issues in my mind, the arguments I had with myself before I came to a decision.

I am so tired of being held accountable for the sins of my fathers father. How guilty I am because of slavery that was carried out before I was born, for wars that happened before I could read, for the sins of men who I never had a voice in electing.

And when the opportunity comes along to right a wrong that happened when I was but a child, to free people who should have been freed over a decade ago, I am told that we shouldn't interfere. Why? Because we didn't finish the job last time despite the cries of those who would maintain the horror and injustice.

When do we get to stop feeling bad about our past? When are we allowed to feel good about the good that we do? When do we get to hear "Thank you?"

Exactly, who exactly are the "evil" people of America when people are dancing in the streets of Iraq and some people (idiots) are crying in the streets of free countries because of war.

"And, oh yeah, there's that thing where innocent civilians are still being killed, and still dying in overflowing hospitals. My question for you is if the war is over, why do our troops keep shooting people?"

My question is this: If you, Drublood, think that Michele is extremely shortsighted, why do you write fucked-up crap like this simplistic, idiotic statement? You seriously think the troops "keep shooting people" just so they can shoot them dead? What the fuck is wrong with people like you anyway? I am totally sick of all of your bombastic, simple-minded "thinking" that generalizes and stereotypes our troops as baby-killing, fanatical, Nazi-like crazed gunmen lusting for Iraqi blood on their hands. What the hell did you think was going to happen, they were going to go grow daisies in their bazookas and bake apple pies once they got there? Words have fucking evaded me trying to express my disgust for all of your narrow-minded shit. Go find a job that lasts maybe 8 hours in the day so your infantile excuses of minds have something more productive to focus on, if you're so incapable of rational thought. Oh, and maybe be happy too for the thousands of freed Iraqis. Dont always be looking for something to fucking bitch about.

I'm just glad to see the people genuinely smiling and laughing, instead of doing it 'deer in the headlights' style in front of Iraqi State Network Cameras with Fedayeen standing off-camera watching.
I hope they all continue to experience those feelings unafraid, for the rest of their lives.

"But you can continue to celebrate while I continue to advocate for peaceful solutions to human rights crises everywhere."


Number of people liberated by Coalition forces today: 25 million Iraqis

Number of people liberated by the "peace" movement today: 0

Please forgive me if I'm not impressed by your "advocacy".

drublood- you will never get it.

Michele: 10
Drublood: 0

A moment of silence, please, for all the depressed and miserable peacenuggets who have seen their fondest wishes get flushed down Saddam's golden toilet bowl...

Oh hell no, let's laugh our asses off at these sadsacks, sob sisters, and Carrie Nations that would steal candy from a baby because all the world's Children™ didn't have access to an all-day sucker of their very own. Bye bye, peace creeps: have fun in Irreleventsia.

Amen, sistah!

March 18, 2003
Dear Mr. Speaker: (Dear Mr. President:)
Consistent with section 3(b) of the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107-243), and based on information available to me, including that in the enclosed document, I determine that:
(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic and other peaceful means alone will neither (A) adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq nor (B) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and
(2) acting pursuant to the Constitution and Public Law 107-243 is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

What about this stuff?

It is a very good thing that I live in a relatively conservative area and haven't come across any of these lunatic peace activists.

If I see one more sign accusing Bush of being equivalent to Hitler or Saddam, I swear I will rip the fucking sign out of their hand and punch them in the face.

I am SICK of this bullshit. We watched CHILDREN being released from prison and these gutless fucks have the nerve to show their faces and actually form words in protest to what has occurred.

They disgust me.

NEVER will I allow one of these people in my home EVER again. If they own a business, they will not get a penny of my money. If they work for someone else, I will not do business with them. They are not welcome in my world--anywhere.

The end is wonderful, but the means do not justify the end.

Hmmm. Ok, I'm not going to simply nail that one to the floor. I'm all for reasoned debate.

So please clarify and elucidate your statement that "the means do not justify the end."

Perhaps, because it is such a broad statement, you can convice me in some circumstance. Please do so.

"And, oh yeah, there's that thing where innocent civilians are still being killed"

You are right! That would never have happened under the loving, watchful eye of Mr. Saddam....

Blah, Blah, Blah.....

Oh! Perhaps Mr. Bush should have sent drublood to "Uncle Saddam" in an effort to settle Iraq's problems peacefully.

Does drublood have any idea what the old (hopefully) dead guy would do to his/her a**? Saddam has proven himself an opponent to any 'peace' that didn't fit in with his egotistical needs to dominate, torture, control, murder, maim, destroy.....need I go on? More than likely, drublood, you and anyone else you took with you would have ended up in the hands (and torture chambers) of Saddam's serial rapist son. Do ya think you could talk him into peace?

Saddam doesn't (or hopefully DIDN'T) understand anything but force. It is/was his nature as a brutal, psychotic dictator.

You need to look again at the people in Baghdad's streets. They know that some of their own are being sacrificed on the altar of freedom, but even in their personal loss is that joy which comes from knowing they will at last be free of Saddam. Give these people freedom and democracy THEN speak to them of peace!

I think today's events have been great. Only the rabid on either side of the spectrum could have been dissapointed today.

I shudder to think about the human rights abuses that will soon be uncovered though. I wonder if the protest crowd will show indiglation about them or somehow make Saddam's torture chambers teh responsibility of the "warmongering western countries.".

The BBC reported that an Iraqi guy went up to a US Marine yesterday and said "I'm exercise my right of free speech. Please go home". It might sound a mite ungrateful, but the guy CAN say that now. The response of the Marine? "That's all I want to do, bud." A liberator not a occupier. While I'm here a big thank you to all the British Armed Forces and a Hail Mary every day that you get home safe. A special mention to 16 Air Assault Brigade and the 1st Battalion Royal Irish Regiment. My father, a paddy by extraction served in the desert in WW2 behind enemy lines - your're just carrying on the good work. If you want to know what a good warrior sounds like check out the pre-war speech of Lt Col Tim Collins (type Colonel Tim Collins into google). Awe-inspiring. Bless you all on a great day.

Michelle - you and the rest of the commenters have been far more eloquent that I (a writer, yet!) could ever be. I can barely form the words to describe the contempt I feel towards those who honestly believed that a 'man' who kept a children's prison should have been kept in power, that the US is the source of evil, that all of the jubilance is being staged, and so on. Oh, and don't forget about the 'moron' we have for a president. Just typing these words gets my blood boiling. What we 'baby-killers' need to do is simply appreciate that the weight of tyranny has been removed from 20 or so million people after 25 years.

Sure, the war is not over, and may not be for some time, but a grave evil has largely been rendered impotent. May it and the anti-war crowd live comfortably in their shared irrelevance.

YAY VICKIE! You get to sit at Michele's right. Go gurls!

BTW, drub, Iraq returned ~40 truckloads of medical supplies to Jordan the other day, saying they'd rather have Jordan's support in the war. Maybe that's ONE of the reasons med supplies are short. How much medicine do you think could be bought with the cost of a few gold shitters?

How much medicine do you think could be bought with the cost of a few gold shitters?
Man, if I could shit gold, I would SO quit this lame ass job.