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the time has come to shut up

We are at war.

At war.

All the weeks and months headed towards this, and now we are here and it seems sort of unbelievable to me, and quite scary.

I'm so scared for the men and women over there fighting, and then I read something like this:

Attack USA soldiers everywhere, with words and disgust. Tell them they are not supported, they are pawns of evil, they will be prosecuted as war criminals, they will die in shame. Spray paint slogans on US businesses, products and aircraft: "ALL US Troops = War Criminals, Death to Imperialist Soldiers."Don't stop til the USA no longer exist

And it makes me want to scream.

And then I read this:

In one of the most brutal critiques of the administration's policy toward Iraq by a member of Congress, East Bay Rep. Pete Stark said President Bush would be responsible for "an act of terror" by launching a massive bombing campaign to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"I think unleashing 3,000 smart bombs against the city of Baghdad in the first several days of the war . . . to me, if those were unleashed against the San Francisco Bay Area, I would call that an act of extreme terrorism," said Stark, a Democrat from Fremont.

And I wonder if this man can hear his own words, if he realizes we are now at war and he is behaving like a sullen child who hurls insults as a last ditch attempt to get attention.

And then I read this:

Today I weep for my country," said West Virginia Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd. "No more is the image of America one of strong, yet benevolent peacekeeper. ... Around the globe, our friends mistrust us, our word is disputed, our intentions are questioned.

"We flaunt our superpower status with arrogance," Byrd said, adding: "After war has ended the United States will have to rebuild much more than the country of Iraq. We will have to rebuild America's image around the globe."

And I think, yes I weep as well. I weep for the men and women who are putting themselves on the line. I weep for the people of Iraq, who have been so downtrodden and so opressed that they welcome a war on their own soil.

This is a time to come together. It is a time to support our brave soldiers, to thank them, to wish them safety.

Do not turn your backs on your own country. Not now, when war is waging and people will surely be dying. Not now, when we are on our way to bringing democracy to people that only dreamed of it before.

Don't sit back and enjoy the spoils of democracy and freedom and then not support our men and women when they are fighting for those very things.

Just shut up, put a yellow ribbon around your tree, and wish for the safe return of every soldier who is engaging in battle.

I would not have called you anti-American before this day if you protested and shouted slogans, even if you called the president a murderer. I would not want to crush your dissent or shut you up.

But times of war call for different behavior. For our enemies and our soldiers to see a nation divided can only lead to terrible things.

Remember your history.


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First, let me say, God save the troops. Let them come home alive without having to kill any innocent people (and may God forgive them if they do).

But, for those of us who believe this war is wrong, the day we stop voicing our conviction is the day we stop being American.

Just let it end quickly.

You know what pisses me off about Robert Byrd? This guy is an ex-Klansman, and yet that fact is treated as completely irrelevant by the same people who mindlessly use the word "racist" to describe everyone to the right of Barbra Streisand.

Write to Pete Stark:


Write to Robert Byrd:


I haven't had the time to read any blogs at all lately, but as I posted my reaction to the bombing tonight I wanted to read what you had to say.

I feel scared, too, of course. You know full well by now that I'm anti-war, but love my country deeply. No matter how many words I might write shouting my disapproval of our president and this war, I would never dishonor the men and women risking their lives in our names. I too hope that there will be a quick end to this war and that there will be a minimum of lives lost, among both our troops and Iraqi civilians.

If Hussein can be taken out of power, and the Iraqi people can begin to move toward democracy, then this war will have accomplished something, at least. I just hate that bombs have to be dropped to do it.

Miss you, by the way :)

Sorry, but not only do I think Sen, Byrd's comments were appropriate, but I agree with them. Especially this bit:

"The case this administration tries to make to justify its fixation with war is tainted by charges of falsified documents and circumstantial evidence," Byrd said.

Despite administration suggestions to the contrary, Byrd said, "There is no credible information to connect Saddam Hussein to 9/11."

The senator said, "We cannot convince the world of the necessity of this war for one simple reason. This is a war of choice."

Officially we weren't at war when he made his statement. Officially, we're still not in it as I type this. Perhaps the rest of the world wouldn't need to see us divided if the President had made a better case for our support.

To suggest we should ignore our conscious and just "shut up" and fall in line with the pro-war camp is not only insulting, but in my mind it's tantamount to turning my back on my country. To not stand up and point out when I feel the country is doing the wrong thing would be the most un-patriotic thing I think I could do.

The evil Bush Monster has let loose the Dogs of War to carpet bomb and kill millions of helpless Iraqi civilians instead of letting those very effective sanctions and inspections reduce the proud Iraqi leader to a quivering mass of protoplasm.

Rise up, people of the world, we can help the cause for peace by getting naked and painting Bush=Hitler signs. The Gates of Vandenburg await!

Damn. Way too much caffeine...

I'm not a fan of war in general, but I support this one.

As to Robert Byrd? His remarks should be publicised like Representatie Moran's were. And since he's a Democrat, he gets free ride on the KKK thing. Personally, I think that is wrong.

Michele, I don't think your examples here are all the same. The first two are appalling; it's probably better for everyone's blood pressure not to pay attention to such people.

Robert Byrd the person is also appalling--a pork barrel politicking, glad-handing lower life form; but while I don't think what he says is correct, it's not the same as wishing destruction on our country. One of the things about America that inspire awe around the world is that we can debate significant issues--raucously, even angrily--among ourselves without being a nation divided in the fundamental sense.

Byrd's constituents have cut him a lot of slack in the past because of his success at bringing home the pork. However, I think this might be enough to cause his, ah, electoral retirement. West Virginians are among the most fiercely patriotic people in the United States. They will not take the vilification of their country lightly.

Hard to say. The fact that he's one of the oldest people in office right now could also prompt a retirement before much longer. The man is getting to be too damned old. If his somewhat dodgy past hasn't been enough for them to vote him out I doubt this speech will be.


As much as I wish you were right, WV seems to give Bob Byrd an unlimited free pass to do or say absolutely anything, regardless of how inconsistent it may be with the state's political leanings. And I'm sure he's hooting to break Strom Thurmond's record, so there won't be any voluntary retirement. The best I think one can realistically do is just try to ignore this obnoxious fossil as much as possible.

That should say "shooting."

Because it now happens it won't become a good thing. I feel sorry for all men and women who have to go and fight, just because Georgie stamps with his foot and shouts "Because I say so!". Like our chanccelour Schroeder says: It was the wrong decision, let's hope it will end quickly. Let them go in, fight and let survive as many as possible on all sides.

I AGREE...............SHUT UP all you anti-americans! Your very freedom to voice your opinion was bought and paid for by these soldiers who are know fighting for these people in Iraq to have ..... a taste of the freedom you all so quickly forget who bought it for you! SHUT UP and support our country! You can NOT protest the war and say you support our troops they can't go hand and hand!