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poetry against the the poetry against the war

In addition to being both a paid holiday and my brother-in-law's birthday, it is also Day of Poetry Against the War.

I think I'll submit this one:

ode to the anti-war protesters

I resent
the war of words
That France and Germany
are waging against us

I am against
the war of ideals;
your socialist organizations
pitting us against each other

I am sick of your voice
how the word oil
drips from your tongue
forming pools of idiocy
at your feet

I am against the war
you have created
between the proud and the shamed
red white and blue
versus
the anarchist symbol

I am against your nakedness
against your window smashing
i will fight your ignorance
your allegiance to martyrs

you wage a war
of confused issues
it's the rich, you say
it's the Jews, you say
it's the oil, you say
it's the arrogance, you say

your placards and posters
and peace signs
make our enemy grin

i protest the war
you wage against my future
the war you are provoking
against a world
without terrorism.

Probably not what they had in mind.

Comments

ooh, I like it! Pretty. :)

i think it's exactly what they had in mind.

You know you're oppressing/censoring them now, right?

Wow, that's awesome!!!

(damn I wish I could write something like that!!)

Last night on NPR, I heard in passing an announcement of some sort of poetic gathering somewhere in Vermont. "Poets Against The War!" I guessed. My companion asked, "How do you know?"

"Because," I said. "It's NPR. It's poets. And it's Vermont. What else could it be?"

The radio continued, "...join us for 'Poets Against The War,' this Saturday..."

So bloody predictable.

Baby heads on pikes!
Tramp'ling animal rights!
Here a nazi
there a nazi
ev'rywhere a Dubyanazi!

It's all about the Jews!
And wearing leather shoes!
The World Bank has no tanks
but America's will do!

No wait! Chomsky says you're lyin'!
A million Afghanis dyin'!
Iraqi babies fryin'!
Soulless brain-washed uncreative representatives of the fascist totalitarian capitalist propaganda machine will take away your right to sit on your ass and Make Art, man!"

And so forth.

I like! War bad!
Frenchy embassy contact:
http://www.ambafrance-us.org/contactus.asp

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

How is a war against Iraq a war against terrorism? Oh wait, never mind, bombing the muslims will make them NOT want to blow up American buildings. I get it now. Sheesh, and all this time I figured that killing their people, taking their land by force, and supporting their enemies while doing all this, would just piss them off more. How could I have been so wrong?

Whatchumean "paid holiday" NO fair!

Great poem, do enter it...of course we know what will happen..don't we?

This is kind of off-topic, but I was wondering if you are aware of the Cross-Blog Iraq Debate going on over at Truth Laid Bare and Stand Down?

Um, Chip...Didja manage to miss that little speech by good ole' Osama yesterday? not sure how you could, with it ALL OVER THE NEWS. You know, Osama weighing in on the whole war with Iraq, and urging the Iraquis to fight us? No, all MUSLIMS to fight us? Yeah..No connection between terrorism (Osama) and Iraq AT ALL.

Whatever.

Yeah, that tape that Colin Powell reported on before it was even delivered to the news agency? That tape with a similar sounding voice to the one that the Swiss said wasn't Osama Bin Laden? That tape that conveniently came out just when global support for Bush's unjustified attack on Saddam was at its lowest? That tape that has Osama declaring his hate for Saddam as well as other nations? Yeah, I heard that tape. But it still doesn't mean attacking Iraq will cause those Muslims to STOP blowing things up, it might actually provoke them further. Plus, that tape is about as solid as the rest of Powells evidence, evidence which couldn't hold as much water as a Bounty paper towel. Evidence that is full of blatant lies and accusations. Accusations that Saddam gassed his own people, while there is no proof of that ever taking place. In fact the proof actually points to the Iranians having gassed the village of Hablaj, not Iraq. And of course we should always listen to a tape released by the guy who is thought to be responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Surely he has nothing to gain by inciting the muslim community. And how better to incite militant muslims than to help ensure the Nazi-like Bush administration goes barging in guns a blazing. So like you said....whatever.

Everytime the Admin comes out with proof of any kind, the left, right away, KNOWS that its fake. Goodgodalmighty that is amazing!
Anywho, I suggest you call the French Embassy in DC. They are getting swamped with calls from 'angry americans'. I called collect and they accepted! Amazing! Isnt that surrendering of sorts?
call: 202.944.6000
ask for Jacques!

Lovely poem, very well written.

And Chip: Would you prefer we just sit here and let them destroy all of our buildings and all of our people? I'd rather fight back, thanks!

Chip, may Godwin's Law blow up your house.

If I'm not mistaken, you were in Canada on 9/11. I was in downtown Manhattan choking on dust. And I'm tired of having to explain how the world works to folks who can't understand that when you're punched, you punch back. You also punch anybody who helped punch you. You punch anyone who laughed at you while you bled. This isn't about bullshit political theory, or some sophisticated analysis of intelligence data, or some enlightened way of looking at the causes of human violence and bravely beating our swords into ploughshares so that all the earth might somehow be inspired to do the same.

This is about not getting punched again.

This is about putting our enemies down so hard that they don't get up. Ever.

You may be content to let the Euroweenies do their little cowardly dance, but I'm not. You may think that "containment" is an acceptable risk, but I don't. Frankly, I don't care if the entire world thinks America is a blundering, unrefined, simpleton juggernaut: its people are righteously furious, and the end result of our fury is going to be a world noticeably less inhabited by medieval assholes who want to kill us...you...anybody Jewish...anybody, in fact, who does not submit to Shari'a.

That's good all 'round, as far as I'm concerned. I don't need to be convinced of the particulars because I'm convinced that the principle is sound. All you're doing is spouting words and air.

I was'nt going to respond at first but Ian got to me... I'm gonna make a few points and hope i dont ramble too long.

1)"....when you're punched, you punch back. You also punch anybody who helped punch you. You punch anyone who laughed at you while you bled." This is the type of retoric i expect to hear from a teenage bully that just got his ass beat. Which is how America is acting right now, we've already punched the ones that punched us. That was the al-qaida and taliban who helped them. This crap about punching everybody that laughed while you bled is nothing but childish BS. You simply can't go around beating up people because they dont like you. It is not illegal to dislike/ hate america, it does not call for war.

2)"...This is about putting our enemies down so hard that they don't get up. Ever." This is why they hate us, this is why they attacked us in the first place. Do you actually believe this will solve the problem or bring more violent hatred?

3)"I don't need to be convinced of the particulars because I'm convinced that the principle is sound." This makes me believe that you dont care about anybody but yourself. The particulars is the issue here: like how many AMERICAN soldiers will die? How many of my freinds will come back in body bags? What version of shell shock or Gulf war syndrome will they come back with? how will a war affect this generation?

4) There is not sufficient proof to go to war. The tape that "links" Ladin to Al-qaida is yet to be authenticated, was NEVER broadcasted in Iraq, and insults the man we are claiming he's in cahoots with. There has to be more than the words of Bush, scare-tacticts, propaganda, and buzz words (anti-terrorism) to convince me that its ok for tens of thousands of people to die in combat.

P.S No I am not anti-american and Yes i am anti-terrorism, i just dont put a label of terrorist on anything just so i can kill it.

I think bukky summed it all up.
Sunnydesus - what makes you think, seriously, why do you think that Iraq is going to mount some sort of military campaign to come to America and blow up all your buildings? Attacking Iraq isn't fighting back, it's just what it is, attacking. An unprovoked, unjustified attack on a foreign nation. It's not Bush's responisibility to enforce U.N. resolutions, no action has been taken against the U.S. there is no threat to the security of the nation. There is no reason for a war, plain and simple. Bush whines about Iraq not following U.N. protocol, well he's doing the exact same thing by trying to invade without a resolution. He's a hypocrite and the Fox News watching public is eating it all up. What a bunch of blind sheep you all are.

"You simply can't go around beating up people because they dont like you. It is not illegal to dislike/ hate america, it does not call for war."

Where the hell have you been for the past oh, 23 years? This isn't about a bunch of people just "disliking" America.

Let’s see...in 1979 there was that whole Iranian hostage thing...1982, some folks blew up our embassy in Beirut...in ’83 241 U.S. soldiers were killed, again in Beirut...in 1985, it was deemed good politics to kill crippled American Leon Klinghoffer aboard a hijacked cruise ship, because he was an American, and--as a bonus--a Jew...in 1988, there was Pan Am 103 (270 dead)...in 1993, we had the first World Trade Center bombing...1996, an Air Force barracks in Saudia Arabia was bombed...in 1998, our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed...there was the USS Cole bombing in 2000...and then (lest we forget) 3,000 dead at the World Trade Center just seventeen months ago.

You beat up people when they beat you up or they help people that beat you up. Get a grip. Like all who are opposed to the United States defending itself, you call the upcoming fighting in Iraq a "war." It's not: it's just a battle. The war is upon all those who think it would be a grand--nay, a holy--idea to pop open a can of VX in DC, or set off a bomb in New York (again), and so forth, and upon all those who supply them material, or pay them money, or have a strong probability of doing so. That's Iraq.

Your level of acceptable risk is stupidly high, and I'm very glad that you're not making the important decisions here.

"This is why they hate us, this is why they attacked us in the first place. Do you actually believe this will solve the problem or bring more violent hatred?"

You are naive. "Oooo, they hate us because we're such imperalists, ooo!" You've sucked up the pacificistic, postmodern wad of transnational spooge like a credulous sponge.

And yes: I think that when people who want to destroy a country are dead, they are solved problems. I think that when the infrastrcuture that supports them is destroyed and replaced with an infrastructure that is run by someone a tad more humane, it is a solved problem. I think that when those who provide the religious and ideological justification for indiscriminate slaughter are puffed into pink paste, they, too, are solved problems.

What is your suggestion? Repentance? Crawl on our bloodied knees and beg these medieval, murdering assholes for forgiveness? Diploooomacy? Jackass!

"'I don't need to be convinced of the particulars because I'm convinced that the principle is sound." This makes me believe that you dont care about anybody but yourself.'"

No, you choose to believe it because you disagree with me; nobody makes you believe anything.

Why don't you just throw in the bullshit "chickenhawk" argument and have done with it?

And while you're at it--even though this is, honestly, a very real but tangential benefit--explain to the Iraqi citizenry why it's a good idea for us to stay home

The trouble with people like you is that there really is no amount of proof that will satisfy you. It's always questions and theory. I used to be very reasonable when dealing with such concerns, but now I'm just sick to death of the same frightened mewling.

Is it a risky operation? Absolutely. Will people die? Certainly, although I guarantee you that the only way "tens of thousands" will die is if Sadaam uses a nasty weapon or two. But people are already dead.

Here's a fact for you: three thousand American civilians are already dead.

You want to make absolutely sure that there is definitive proof of total and utter cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaeda? You want a picture of Osama giving Sadaam a blowjob? You want to spend the time getting everything nice and neat, so that future generations will know that we're not just a bunch of imperialist cowboys off to fight a war for oiiiillll?

Fine. Go ahead. There are already 3,000 reasons for my nation's soldiers to go in and clean up that part of the world, and, I'll bet, those soldiers think so as well. You go and study theories of power structures and oppression. Go on! Grown-ups are working.

"There is not sufficient proof to go to war."

As I said, go on!

And as far as you, Chip: the blind sheep are the ones who have been led down this simple-minded, pacifisctic, idealized, pretty golden road by a generation's worth of vile, soul-destroying crap! spewing from the mouths of folks like Chomsky and the other "progressives" of this country and of Europe.

"Why do you think that Iraq is going to mount some sort of military campaign to come to America and blow up all your buildings?"

You're a simpleton. An absolute simpleton. That's not the issue, never has been the issue, and never will be the issue. The issue is non-state actors gaining material and assistance of any kind from state actors. Always has been. I don't give a rat's ass about the UN, which is such a moral organization that Libya heads its Human Rights Commission, and such an effective organization that its peacekeepers are ordered to stand by while refugees are massacred. As far as I'm concerned, all this dancing with the UN is bullshit window-dressing, and I'll be glad when it's over.

You're ignorance of the events of the world is matched only by the enthusiasm with which you demonstrate that ignorance.

You and bukky go have a nice chat, now, and convince yourselves how superior you are to this imperalistic, warmongering American. Go on! Enjoy Happy Funtime Theoryland. Reality will grind on without you.

Now: off to get coffee. I'm so grumpy before I have my coffee.

3000 reasons to go to war with Iraq. But Iraq didn't have anything to do with the World Trade Centres. There's NO connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Hell most of the reasons Bush has been using are complete bull shit. It's a money grab, it's a smoke screen to take national attention away from his shitty economic policies. The whole thing is a sham. Quit supporting this redneck, open your eyes. The rest of the world isn't apprehensive because they're afraid of anything, the reason they don't support this war is because there is NO reason to go to war. Please, just get it already!

Pull the string again, I want to hear the cow go "moo".

Oh wow you have led me to see the error of my ways...i will proceed to shove my head up G. Dubya arse and learn to see anybody that is not american as the evil, ingnorant, unworthy to be called human being that they undoubtedly are.

Actually on the other hand i dont think i could ever lose enough self dignity or grey matter to do that.

1)"Letís see...in 1979 there was that whole Iranian ...3,000 dead at the World Trade Center just seventeen months ago." It's funny that in all this ranting and raving about all the wrong that has been done against the US, you NEVER once mentioned IRAQ. Futher more all these acts were commited by terrorist groups not whole countires. Those terrorist groups took responsibilty for the acts and if The US should choose to do so i would not disagree with giving those groups a right good ass wooping. IRAQ is not a terrorist group, It is a nation. No matter how much we'd like to link it to anti-american terror... WE CAN'T. A tape of someone that might be Bastard Ladin insulting Saddam Hussain and calling muslims to arm THAT WAS NEVER PLAYED IN IRAQ proves not a damn thing.

2)"you call the upcoming fighting in Iraq a "war." It's not: it's just a battle." There are 113,000 troops in kuwait and 35,000 more on the way. You dont call this a war? Even you faithful leader; Bush, calls it a war.

3) "...upon all those who supply them material, or pay them money, or have a strong probability of doing so. That's Iraq."
No that's the United States you're talking about, remember The Bay of Pigs, or even better the argentinian and columbian gurrelas we fund and supply in hopes that they will over throw there government. Do you forget who trained and funded the Taliban? If any country is so obviously guilty of funding "terrorists" it is America.

3)"...acceptable risk is stupidly high" One could say the same about Dubya. He is risking 113,000 American lives and countless Iraqi civillians.

4) "Oooo, they hate us because we're such imperalists, ooo!" Are you stupid or can you just not read.... THIS is why they hate us: )"...This is about putting our enemies down so hard that they don't get up. Ever."
The fact the we get in heads who the enemy is and we desimate them. Anybody that does not bow down to U.S leadership is the enemy there for they must be destroyed? They hate us because we think we can just kill anybody we want and nobody can stop us.

5)"a tad more humane" and i'm sure that you think US would obviuosly be the more humane.

6)Its better for the Iraqi civilians for us to stay home because then they wont get displaced. Their children will not have to witness the etrocity of war. The american bombs will not be exploding in there backyards and their husbands, fathers, brothers, nephews, and cousins wont have to die protecting their land. How suppurtive would you be of this war if you thought that it would be fought on American soil. If it was to take place in your backyard with your kids as witness and possible casualties would you be so gun-ho

7)"The trouble with people like you is that there really is no amount of proof that will satisfy you." I would be satisfied with pictures of weapons, inspectors saying yes we found something. I have been offered nothing but the words of G-Dubya. I promise they do have weapons of mass destruction...i gotta go kill them first then i'll show you proof.

8)"three thousand American civilians are already dead." not at the hands of Iraq or Saddam the poeple that will die in this war die because of Bush and all the assholes that support him

9)Well since you mentioned OIL do let us think about how much U.S will gain from a war like this, or how much Bush and his freinds could gain by running an oil pipe line through IRAQ. Hmmmm coincidence? sure if you're a dumb ass.

10)"I'll bet, those soldiers think so as well" Oh yeah I bet they are just dying to go get shot at, they love that shit.

SIDE NOTE: i respect anybody that would put their lives in arms way when called upon to do so. my arguement here is that this is one of those times where they SHOULD NOT be called upon

11)" The issue is non-state actors gaining material and assistance of any kind from state actors. Always has been. " I saw something today it said "Bombing for Peace is a bit like Fucking for Virginity". I think thats a nice way to put it

I think "bukky" must be short for "bukkake."

sorry...i dont get it

Why should we go to war with Iraq? Just because he has invaded his neighbors, financially supported terrorists, gassed and tortured his own people, and lied like hell for the past twelve years about his weapons and refused to cooperate with the ( pathetic) U.N., and just because he starves his own people while owning palaces and limos does not give us the right to wage an unjust war against him. Yeah, right...what exactly does our country stand for again? I forgot. Thought it had something to do with the rights of humans to live without torture and freedom to chose their own government and future or something. I could be wrong.

we are against the war

Said Med Ali( Algeria)

"Pools of idiocy" that's the expression I would use to describe the content of this website. Don't say anything about things u don't understand. You don't even know where the countries are, you' re talking about. You don't know what war means either. Do you know anything else, besides that USA rocks? @ all American idiots: Please mail me. What about telling me your arguments in German, as I will do it on English. I will tell you the whole truth, maybe you get a bit cleverer then. Better be silent than saying anything, if you only think to know anything.

USA rulez as well as their 200 years old condition; death penalty forever!

Valentin Sekinger
Germany (You know that country, bavaria, hitler etc.)

It took Bill Clinton 6 months and a ton of lawyers, and he still failed to spin the truth that a blow job aint fuckin'.
Junior OldCoke.dui.fundiI was ayouth@30 and tell it like it is MON can ALCHEMIZE mass murder with 3 letters of the English Language
W A R
Talk about SPIN, we must give a leader credit where credit is due. He has tapped into the American Psyche as no pseudo intellectual bleeding heart cautious liberal has ever done.
The man has a hotline to Jesus as long as Jesus is some shadow of a demogogue selling angst. He also has his heart and pipeline on the pulse of ignorance we call the middle class in America.