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anti war protesters: let Iraqis free themselves!

The anti-war people get wise. They are now clarifying, for those interested, that they oppose Saddam and the war.

We oppose the impending U.S.-led war on Iraq, which threatens to inflict vast suffering and destruction, while exacerbating rather than resolving threats to regional and global peace. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who should be removed from power, both for the good of the Iraqi people and for the security of neighboring countries. However, it is up to the Iraqi people themselves to oust Saddam Hussein, dismantle his police state regime, and democratize their country. People in the United States can be of immense help in this effort--not by supporting military intervention, but by building a strong peace movement and working to ensure that our government pursues a consistently democratic and just foreign policy. [emphasis mine]

Listen up, you dimwits. In your own words, Saddam is a tyrant. Have the reams and reams of articles about Saddam's penchant for torturing and killing those who speak against him not given you any clue as to how it would turn out if even one person spoke against him, let alone many? They would be locked up and hung from their ankles in a millisecond and their revolt would be shorter than Sean Penn's marriage to Madonna.

How do you expect people who have very little education, if any, no food, no medicine and no money to democratize their country? Are you really that naive or do you just think that everyone has the freedom we do to stand up and oppose the government?

"Democratic and just foreign policy" does not work with a leader who understands neither concept. It's been tried. It failed. Please explain to me how all the banners and marches and speeches of the peace movement will in any way, shape or form help Iraq become a democratic country.

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I just ran into the following quote in a little-known book from 1938:

"Adolph Hitler is a tyrant who should be removed from power, both for the good of the German people and for the security of neighboring countries. However, it is up to the German people themselves to oust Adolph Hitler, dismantle his police state regime, and democratize their country."

"...by building a strong peace movement".These wadsworth wang-yankers are so self-centered and self-absorbed that thay really think protesting will do ANYTHING to better this situation?What a sad use for thumbs.

It's a damn good thing General LaFayette didn't think that way.

wanting to be devil's advocate, i'd like to point out that the russian people hae little food, education or money, but in 1917 did a real number on the ruling class. so, however unlikely, it's possible for the iraqi people to do what the revolutionaries did.

of course, the russian people turned out to be worse off than they had been, which a lot of anti-war-with-iraq people believe.

sometimes i get to the point where i say (aloud, no less), 'just drop a fucking bomb on all of them and let's get it over with.'

Thank Allah that Shawn Pen is going to Iraq to see how bad The Americanos have made life for the Iraqi people! When he comes back, I hope he tells the selfish people of America how we are killiing the innocent children of Iraq (That Saddam somehow missed) and how wrong it is to go to war. He gets my vote in the next election.
During WW two people were against war and Hitler......wait, come to think of it, I think I am wrong; They liked Hitler and they wanted war.......Yes; they did like Hitler. The Krautenheimers were brainwashed! Sound familiar, Iraq? Whats that? You cant hear because Sadom cut your ear off?

Thank Allah that Shawn Pen is going to Iraq to see how bad The Americanos have made life for the Iraqi people! When he comes back, I hope he tells the selfish people of America how we are killiing the innocent children of Iraq (That Saddam somehow missed) and how wrong it is to go to war. He gets my vote in the next election.
During WW two people were against war and Hitler......wait, come to think of it, I think I am wrong; They liked Hitler and they wanted war.......Yes; they did like Hitler. The Krautenheimers were brainwashed! Sound familiar, Iraq? Whats that? You cant hear because Sadom cut your ear off?

Only thing establishing a 'peace movement' in Iraq would do is help pinpoint all those folks who aren't estatic about Saddam's reign, who would be swiftly removed.

Got a co-worker who thinks that Saddam should be deposed peacefully, since he was an 'elected' leader. Came as a surprise to her to find out that he was the only candidate and the turnout was 100% in favor of him. She also didn't know about the palaces he's built and the food he's sold off while his people supposedly starve.

"Well, why don't they depose him?"

"Because he's got all the guns."

"Well, someone ought to do something!"

Uh-huh. And who would you suggest? (Bright, she ain't.)

J.

Odd that Colin Powell feels the same way. Just another draft-dodging President using the military for political purposes.

You know Colin Powell? Wow! Tell him I said hi!!!!

You know Colin Powell? Wow! Tell him I said hi!!!!

The Iraqis tried it. Saddam's goons shot them down.

The Russians ovethrew the Czar when the country had its ass whipped by the Germans. In other words, the only reason they could do it was that the Germans were doing to Russia what George Bush proposes to do to Saddam.

If the US does not take him out no one will. It is the Iraqis' only chance to get a halfway decent government. If the "peaceniks" really were concerned about the well-being of the Iraqis they would be protesting that the US has delayed too long.

SEAN PENN,
please save the Iraqi children from Democracy!!!!!

Ian Hennessey said it best:

http://www.vutorch.org/v1i1/hypocrisy.htm